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Microsoft Surface Laptop 7 15 Lunar Lake review - A slap in the face for Windows on ARM

Started by Redaktion, March 24, 2025, 14:54:57

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RobertJasiek

Quote from: Worgarthe on March 24, 2025, 22:56:140-80% goes in 30-45 minutes, so if you don't have that much time in your day to plug in once then you are doing something seriously wrong for your health.

It is not how WANT to use my mobile devices. I want a pleasant experience - not nasty interruptions. (Others using devices in the wilderness cannot even recharge.)

RobertJasiek

Quote from: TalynOne on March 24, 2025, 23:00:32The niche app compatibility is just that, niche, it doesn't apply to 95% of app usage.

For simplicity, let me believe your stats. I use 100 softwares or drivers. 5% without compatibility means that I cannot run 5 essential softwares. This is 5 too many. A computer must run EACH of my needed softwares!

SmellingBS

Quote from: TalynOne on March 24, 2025, 23:00:32I know of a few people who bought both the Intel and ARM version....

You know "a few people" who bought both versions? At least try to be a bit more believable when you make up a story. 

lightenup

Quote from: RobertJasiek on March 24, 2025, 23:02:34
Quote from: Worgarthe on March 24, 2025, 22:56:140-80% goes in 30-45 minutes, so if you don't have that much time in your day to plug in once then you are doing something seriously wrong for your health.

It is not how WANT to use my mobile devices. I want a pleasant experience - not nasty interruptions. (Others using devices in the wilderness cannot even recharge.)

Lol yeah such a "nasty interruption" to take less than 5 seconds of your day to plug in a cable for < 40mins to nearly recharge a laptop. do you avoid other "nasty interruptions" like going to the bathroom, taking a break to eat, or getting a glass of water or cup of coffee? never look at your phone ONCE when in front of your laptop? I'm sure you just sit at your desk or couch SOOO uninterrupted with an IV drip of adrenaline and a diaper on to avoid so many "nasty interruptions" that clearly make your day so horrible mr busy business man. like come on lol. how on earth are there people making comments like this and be completely oblivious to even their own everyday behavior or actions? absolutely nobody, and I mean NO ONE gets bothered by charging a device every once in a while unless you're a whiny child who ignores the billion other miniscule inconveniences you deal with or accept on a daily basis yet conveniently ignore or forget.

Worgarthe

Quote from: RobertJasiek on March 24, 2025, 23:02:34
Quote from: Worgarthe on March 24, 2025, 22:56:140-80% goes in 30-45 minutes, so if you don't have that much time in your day to plug in once then you are doing something seriously wrong for your health.

It is not how WANT to use my mobile devices. I want a pleasant experience - not nasty interruptions.
So a nasty interruption is to take a cable and plug it into your laptop before going to sleep? I mean that's a process shorter than literally three seconds ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from: RobertJasiek on March 24, 2025, 23:02:34(Others using devices in the wilderness cannot even recharge.)
Yeah, everyone is busy doing work on their laptop in the wilderness - without internet access as there is no WWAN here unlike on many ThinkPad laptops. And if they do have the internet, how do they get it without power source (hotspot is going to drain battery fairly quickly with weak network signal, and network signal is usually weak in the wilderness)? If there is a power source, why not plug in your laptop for, again, 30-40 minutes?

You cannot be serious that people, including you, work 1440 minutes per day but ok, your choice...

RobertJasiek

After decades of weak batteries, finally there are 24h+ devices. What a joy! Meanwhile you care about meta-discussion  about my preference to profit from the technological progress. Can't you enjoy the progress?

TalynOne

Quote from: SmellingBS on March 25, 2025, 07:57:10
Quote from: TalynOne on March 24, 2025, 23:00:32I know of a few people who bought both the Intel and ARM version....

You know "a few people" who bought both versions? At least try to be a bit more believable when you make up a story. 

Nothing to make up, just visit the surface subreddit, and I lied, it's more than a few.

TalynOne

Quote from: RobertJasiek on March 24, 2025, 23:07:02
Quote from: TalynOne on March 24, 2025, 23:00:32The niche app compatibility is just that, niche, it doesn't apply to 95% of app usage.

For simplicity, let me believe your stats. I use 100 softwares or drivers. 5% without compatibility means that I cannot run 5 essential softwares. This is 5 too many. A computer must run EACH of my needed softwares!


I have 171 apps currently installed on my Snapdragon Elite. The apps I can't run that I care about total zero. Even my multifunction wireless printer/scanner worked out of the box. Visit armrepo.ver.lt you'd be surprised how much is now native, and even stuff that isn't native runs fine.

RobertJasiek

Good for you! For me, however, I have just checked 12 representative applications and 2 drivers (1 printer, 1 scanner) important for me - only 3 applications are supported: Firefox, Foxit, ProcessExplorer. So for me, this is the same functionality as iPadOS: surfing and PDF reading almost only.

hs4

Consumer: My Windows on ARM doesn't seem to be able to run this printer. Let's buy a new printer for $500.

Business: My Windows on ARM doesn't seem to be able to run this $500m equipment. Let's buy a new laptop for $1500.

MrMrVedder

I have tested both versions of Samsungs Book4 Edge with X Elite - and Book 5 Pro with Lunar Lake.

The fans ran much more often on the Lunar Lake, just like any old Intels to be honest. The ARM one felt basically fanless... And much snappier in general. I am now looking forward to 2nd Gen X-Elite for sure.

Also as here - the Intel LL version has 20% bigger battery and so the reviewer sees longer Yotube playing, wow rocket science. haha - so much for the credibility in such a lengthy review.

The ARM one is a much better daily driver.


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