Asus ROG Flow Z13 GZ302EA Convertible Review - AMD's Strix Halo GPU is neck-and-neck with the RTX 4070 Laptop

[Redaktion]

Asus starts to equip its gaming convertible ROG Flow Z13 with AMD's latest Strix Halo processors. In addition to impressive CPU performance on par with the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D, the integrated Radeon 8060S competes with the GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop.


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Flow-Z13-GZ302EA-Convertible-Review-AMD-s-Strix-Halo-GPU-is-neck-and-neck-with-the-RTX-4070-Laptop.963266.0.html

[porkchob123]

It looks weird. Why we have to buy 2500$ silly price tablet(or laptop??) has mediocre perfomance? Maybe an AMD's dogshit for fanboys and weirdos.

[IndirectSwing31]

It looks weird. Why we have to buy 2500$ silly price tablet(or laptop??) has mediocre perfomance? Maybe an AMD's dogshit for fanboys and weirdos.

The Flow Z13 has always been $2000+, other form factors will likely be cheaper.
Also "mediocre performance" is one of, if not the best iGPUs released to date, with performance rivalling an RTX 4070 mobile, which itself justifies laptops costing $1500+.

[Alexa]

What's the max charging rate via USB-C PD? 100 Watts or higher? Can it maintain charge wt full load?

[nyavana]

As someone who use windows tablet for 6 hours+ everyday, I expected Strix Halo to deliver superior energy efficiency which enable much thinner and lighter formfactor, but ASUS is only doing the opposite: a 1.2kg tablet that is extremely bulky, impossible to hold by hands, and requires a solid surface to use.

With barely enough battery to last half day, I rather buy both an arm tablet and a windows handheld at half the cost.

[nyavana]

What's the max charging rate via USB-C PD? 100 Watts or higher? Can it maintain charge wt full load?

Previously, ROG devices require the official charger to deliver full performance (100w), and third party PD chargers are capped at 65w. Don't know if this has been changed or not

[Alexa]

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Previously, ROG devices require the official charger to deliver full performance (100w), and third party PD chargers are capped at 65w. Don't know if this has been changed or not

The article says the included charger is 200 watts!

[GeorgeS]

It looks weird. Why we have to buy 2500$ silly price tablet(or laptop??) has mediocre perfomance? Maybe an AMD's dogshit for fanboys and weirdos.

The Flow Z13 has always been $2000+, other form factors will likely be cheaper.
Also "mediocre performance" is one of, if not the best iGPUs released to date, with performance rivalling an RTX 4070 mobile, which itself justifies laptops costing $1500+.

Indeed!

The performance of this chip (exspecially the iGPU!) is VERY attractive and there is hope it finds its way into other 13-14" and smaller devices! (hopefully at lower price points then the Flow)

As owner of both 13 & 14" 'ultrabooks' that can be powered by USBC and play games getting an very capable iGPU can NIX the need/requirement for a dGPU.

If the Laptop is plumbed/wired well enough to have TB3/4/5 and eGPU could be added in the future if need be.

[A]

It looks weird. Why we have to buy 2500$ silly price tablet(or laptop??) has mediocre perfomance? Maybe an AMD's dogshit for fanboys and weirdos.

Name me a cheaper laptop that has that performance and 128gb ram.

[toto1234]

Average ilde (so doing nothing) : 14W
Battery Size : 70Wh
Wifi websurfing : 9h20

How is that possible ? Magic ?
It should be 5hours max.

I don't understand how NBC can come up with these battery life numbers.

[Aras]

Yes, the idle power consumption numbers don't make sense. Devices with much lower idle power consumption measurements have a shorter battery life!

[rutto-noise]

Please help me understand what's going on! Why would literally anyone recommend this laptop, compared to the older G14 with a dedicated 4070, given:

- it costs much much more
- same-ish performance
- same (terrible) battery life
- same heat
- same loudness

What's so spectacular about selling a product that doesn't significantly perform any better than 2 year older technology, while costing 500-700€ more?
What's the fuzz about? Can someone politely explain?

[Benji]

What is the purpose of this device? Who's it targeted to? I honestly have no idea, can someone help me out?

My mum's 2022 Lenovo 5i (pro, slim, whatever, I don't know) with an AMD processor and no dedicated GPU still works surprisingly great for strategy games and other light gaming, so if you're interested in very light gaming, why not grab any other laptop?
If you want "real" gaming in a laptop, you'll probably want one of the new "thin and lights" with 50XX GPUs, or a cheaper last year's model, or an heavier gaming laptop, no?
If you want a tablet and touch functionality, surely a more standard tablet option that is lighter would be better?
If you want 128 GB ram for productivity and work, surely you'd want something with a larger screen?

I'm as excited about the "holy grail" of AMD CPUs as much as the next guy, but why on Earth would I want to buy THIS, of all things?! If there's a use case I'm missing, I'd appreciate someone pointing it out.

[Lou Stoole]

Battery life - garbage
Noise - garbage
Weight - garbage
Glossy screen - garbage, even Apple figured out that some people are ready to pay 100 dollars more for a matte coating
Price - garbage

Should consumers just buy it because it's supposedly a technological achievement for AMD?

Where is NikoB by the way? This website site feels like soulless corporate c0ck-sucking money getting at all cost without any morals type of situation without him.

[A]

Average ilde (so doing nothing) : 14W
Battery Size : 70Wh
Wifi websurfing : 9h20

How is that possible ? Magic ?
It should be 5hours max.

I don't understand how NBC can come up with these battery life numbers.

It says right there if you read.

"Our Wi-Fi test at 150 nits (40 % of the maximum brightness on our review unit) runs for 9:20 hours at 60 Hz and 7:30 hours at 180 Hz. At maximum brightness, these results drop to 6:18 hours (60 Hz) and 5:43 hours (180 Hz), respectively"

So yes, you get ~5 hours if you run it at maximum brightness at 180hz. Idle and wifi makes little difference as windows runs plenty of stuff in the background, surfing the web these days takes almost nothing. Only video takes less.

Please help me understand what's going on! Why would literally anyone recommend this laptop, compared to the older G14 with a dedicated 4070, given:

- it costs much much more
- same-ish performance
- same (terrible) battery life
- same heat
- same loudness

What's so spectacular about selling a product that doesn't significantly perform any better than 2 year older technology, while costing 500-700€ more?
What's the fuzz about? Can someone politely explain?

This isn't a laptop though, it is a touchscreen tablet. And it comes with 128gb ram. Compared to previous model it has double the battery life for average use, it also weights less and smaller size.

Generally, the point of these chips is AI. You wouldn't be able to run the large AI models on the G14 and even the smaller models will perform much worse. Of course why someone would want an AI chip in a tablet form factor is another story. But these flagship models are generally aimed at people who have money to throw out.