Gas stoves: 40,000 annual deaths and hundreds of thousands cases of childhood asthma suspected

[Redaktion]

Gas stoves are linked to 40,000 deaths a year in Europe alone - and tens of thousands more each year in the US. Similar to smoking cigarettes, the health risk of cooking with gas is significantly underestimated. A new study reveals worrying figures, including serious illnesses in children.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gas-stoves-40-000-annual-deaths-and-hundreds-of-thousands-cases-of-childhood-asthma-suspected.922906.0.html

[HHk]

Gas stoves are great. When the power fails, we always relied on gas and still can cook. Instant heat, not picky about cooking ware, and not using a sole source of energy is important for this unstable world today.

[ban-gas-now]

Gas stoves are great. When the power fails, we always relied on gas and still can cook. Instant heat, not picky about cooking ware, and not using a sole source of energy is important for this unstable world today.

40,000 unnecessary deaths a year and child asthma. literally ban the hell out of these death machines. they are a net negative on society.

[Alexander_]

literally ban

It is necessary to prohibit not the use of gas, but to prohibit the dangerous use of gas!
If the gas stove is of good quality and the hood and ventilation are properly organized, then I don't see any health effects. And besides, a person will have a choice: gas or electricity.

[A]

Gas stoves are great. When the power fails, we always relied on gas and still can cook. Instant heat, not picky about cooking ware, and not using a sole source of energy is important for this unstable world today.

solar+battery backup?

It is necessary to prohibit not the use of gas, but to prohibit the dangerous use of gas!
If the gas stove is of good quality and the hood and ventilation are properly organized, then I don't see any health effects. And besides, a person will have a choice: gas or electricity.

Technically, gas stoves are always leaking gas, even when not in use. And most people forget to turn on the ventilation, not to mention even when they do, there is usually a microwave there which has weaker vents

[Gjf]

Solar is poor choice for people living in high latitudes like the UK and Canada. Instead, gas is way more available and energy dense.

Gas stoves are great. When the power fails, we always relied on gas and still can cook. Instant heat, not picky about cooking ware, and not using a sole source of energy is important for this unstable world today.

solar+battery backup?

It is necessary to prohibit not the use of gas, but to prohibit the dangerous use of gas!
If the gas stove is of good quality and the hood and ventilation are properly organized, then I don't see any health effects. And besides, a person will have a choice: gas or electricity.

Technically, gas stoves are always leaking gas, even when not in use. And most people forget to turn on the ventilation, not to mention even when they do, there is usually a microwave there which has weaker vents

[Gjf]

They are a net plus by a long shot. The world is in energy shortage not surplus. If you are being alarmist and sensationalist, how many people gets electrocuted per year? It is a few thousand for the US alone. That means the total for the world is about 60,000 or so per year. Ban electricity now!

Gas stoves are great. When the power fails, we always relied on gas and still can cook. Instant heat, not picky about cooking ware, and not using a sole source of energy is important for this unstable world today.

40,000 unnecessary deaths a year and child asthma. literally ban the hell out of these death machines. they are a net negative on society.

[anan]

This can be mitigated with proper ventilation. Unfortunately, most of the time the ventilation is subpar. A lot of post soviet countries use gas stoves in small kitchens that have no or meager active ventilation. Many kitchen ventilation systems are not properly cleaned - a lot of fires happen because of clogged ventilation intakes above the stove.
Basically this would not be a problem if everyone had good ventilation. And the easiest solution is to replace the gas stove with an electric one.
Children with asthma grow into adults who have limits in how they can participate in workforce. We should strive to solve these problems when there is an easy solution.
Arguments that you need a gas stove as a redundant source of energy are unconvincing since electricity supply is quite robust these days (well... except for Texas I guess).

[Zhu]

Gas is a critical energy supply in northern communities. There is simply no way to generate enough electricity without nuclear up north. Even California went rolling brown and blackouts a few years ago during the summer. Any infrastructure that is critical must have redundancy. This is exactly why northern homes still have wood stoves, for redundancy. Even Germany is burning a massive amount of coal following the gas pipeline sabotage. No redundancy means weak geopolitical position and lack of options during natural emergencies and way more stress on a single infrastructure.

[A]

Solar is poor choice for people living in high latitudes like the UK and Canada. Instead, gas is way more available and energy dense.

Solar isn't a poor choice for people living in high latitudes like UK or Canada. You seem to be misunderstanding something, just because solar is much better closer to the equator doesn't mean it is a bad choice up north. Solar is still a great choice in UK and Canada.

As for your statement about gas being more available and energy dense, what in the world are you talking about? Did you just take a random talking point without even understanding it? There is nothing more available than the sun, 99.99% of the earth's energy comes from the sun. As for energy density, another useless metric, solar panels go on your roof, what does energy density matter? On top of that, solar panels are a generator, while gas is a fuel, you can't even cross compare them to begin with.

They are a net plus by a long shot. The world is in energy shortage not surplus. If you are being alarmist and sensationalist, how many people gets electrocuted per year? It is a few thousand for the US alone. That means the total for the world is about 60,000 or so per year. Ban electricity now!

Use of electricity is much more common than methane gas. Methane gas usage is generally mostly for stoves and heating, where as electricity pretty much powers everything.

Gas is a critical energy supply in northern communities. There is simply no way to generate enough electricity without nuclear up north. Even California went rolling brown and blackouts a few years ago during the summer. Any infrastructure that is critical must have redundancy. This is exactly why northern homes still have wood stoves, for redundancy. Even Germany is burning a massive amount of coal following the gas pipeline sabotage. No redundancy means weak geopolitical position and lack of options during natural emergencies and way more stress on a single infrastructure.

There is plenty of ways to generate electricity up north, norway generates most of their electricity from hydro. Then of course there is wind, solar, geothermal and etc. It is just a matter of building it out.

You seem to misunderstand why California has rolling blackouts during summer. The issue is 2 things, first is with old powerlines going through forests causing forest fires. The other one is too much demand during peak, too little demand during offpeak. No one wants to spend billions on a powerplant that runs for an hour during summer in a heatwave. This is why solar+battery is the best option, especially for a place like California.

As for Germany, their coal usage has dropped ever since the pipelines went down. Only reason why coal usage went up in Germany in 2022 was because covid recovery + half of france's nuclear reactors broke down forcing Germany to send power to France. Even then, Germany's coal consumption in 2022 was less than 2018. Now, Germany's coal consumption is record low, even below 2020 pandemic levels.