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AMD Radeon 890M shown to deliver nearly 2x higher FPS with AFMF 2

Started by Redaktion, September 21, 2024, 19:25:04

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Redaktion

The AFMF 2 or AMD Fluid Motion Frames 2 became available for the Strix Point lineup. YouTuber ETA Prime has tested it with the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, and the Radeon 890M can offer nearly 2x higher FPS with the new frame generation tech.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-890M-shown-to-deliver-nearly-2x-higher-FPS-with-AFMF-2.892216.0.html

heffeque

I'm confused... why does that screen say nVidia G-Sync when there's no nVidia HW in it to take advantage of it? Wouldn't FreeSync had made more sense?

Ss

ETA prime has been known in the past to show fake reviews. He puts video of another system, Nd the benchmarks show another system. In one or two videos, the actual SKU name was listed on the benchmark tool, while him claiming it to be another lower powered one.

From that day onwards, I stopped watching qnd trusting his videos.

Bob B

What is the definition of "Frames Per Second" (FPS)?

If I write a system that displays each frame three times in a row (not changing it at all), does that mean I have "increased FPS by 200%"? Or have I not changed the FPS at all.

I think it's a little silly to say that generating frames that don't come from the render engine is "increasing FPS". What it's actually doing is increasing the _effective refresh rate_, since the AFMF frames do not contain any additional information but instead interpolate existing data - almost exactly like if you played the video game on a TV with "clearmotion plus" or whatever frame interpolation technology!

Hotz

Quote from: Ss on September 22, 2024, 03:32:51ETA prime has been known in the past to show fake reviews.

I don't know how far back that was in the past, but his benchmarks have been legit for the last 1-2 years I watched his videos.

BUT... and that's a BIG BUT: You have to listen and look very carefully what settings he uses in games. Because every time he makes a review he uses different settings in his games.

Sometimes he uses FSR, sometimes No FSR, sometimes 720p, sometimes 900p, sometimes 1080p, sometimes very low, sometimes low, sometimes medium, sometimes with overclocked RAM, sometimes with higher TDP set in the BIOS, and any existing combination of these settings.

This makes it almost impossible to compare values, which is often critized by his viewers. But that doesn't mean he fakes it.

As for the benchmarks quoted in the article: I only checked Elden Ring, and the ones without frame generation sound legit (45 fps), as other revies have shown the same.

heffeque

Quote from: Hotz on September 22, 2024, 13:52:17
Quote from: Ss on September 22, 2024, 03:32:51ETA prime has been known in the past to show fake reviews.

I don't know how far back that was in the past, but his benchmarks have been legit for the last 1-2 years I watched his videos.

BUT... and that's a BIG BUT: You have to listen and look very carefully what settings he uses in games. Because every time he makes a review he uses different settings in his games.

Sometimes he uses FSR, sometimes No FSR, sometimes 720p, sometimes 900p, sometimes 1080p, sometimes very low, sometimes low, sometimes medium, sometimes with overclocked RAM, sometimes with higher TDP set in the BIOS, and any existing combination of these settings.

This makes it almost impossible to compare values, which is often critized by his viewers. But that doesn't mean he fakes it.

As for the benchmarks quoted in the article: I only checked Elden Ring, and the ones without frame generation sound legit (45 fps), as other revies have shown the same.
So... Again: why does he show an AMD laptop describing it as if it were the one that he's going to review, then show it on an nVidia G-Sync screen that is obviously not the same one?

Hotz

Quote from: heffeque on September 22, 2024, 16:10:50So... Again: why does he show an AMD laptop describing it as if it were the one that he's going to review, then show it on an nVidia G-Sync screen that is obviously not the same one?

I didn't watch the video , but I can tell you that he *often* uses an external monitor to show gaming and performance results better.


Hotz

Oh, I checked the video... now I understand why you are confused... that "Nvidia Gsync" is printed on the laptop, and not on an external monitor as I assumed.

heffeque

Quote from: Hotz on September 22, 2024, 17:50:11Oh, I checked the video... now I understand why you are confused... that "Nvidia Gsync" is printed on the laptop, and not on an external monitor as I assumed.
Correct, it's a laptop screen, and not the one he said he was reviewing.

Hotz

@heffeque:

Yeah... agreed. It's B.S. The laptop at the beginning does not look the same as the one with the gaming benchmarks. After some investigation I finally found out what's what:


The laptop which he shows at the beginning and the end is the Asus Zenbook S16. This laptop is a pure AMD laptop with the Radeon 890m. It originally came from this video:

link: youtube.com/watch?v=8YTDgiQqkrM


The laptop which shows the gaming benchmarks and which has the "gsync" sticker is the Asus TUF A14 Ryzen HX370, which has the Radeon 890m, but also an Nvidia dGPU. It originally came from this video:

link: youtube.com/watch?v=F2BWCzYKBYs


That mixing both videos into a single one - without telling what's what - was definitely not OK...

heffeque

Quote from: Hotz on September 22, 2024, 18:56:37@heffeque:

Yeah... agreed. It's B.S. The laptop at the beginning does not look the same as the one with the gaming benchmarks. After some investigation I finally found out what's what:


The laptop which he shows at the beginning and the end is the Asus Zenbook S16. This laptop is a pure AMD laptop with the Radeon 890m. It originally came from this video:

link: youtube.com/watch?v=8YTDgiQqkrM


The laptop which shows the gaming benchmarks and which has the "gsync" sticker is the Asus TUF A14 Ryzen HX370, which has the Radeon 890m, but also an Nvidia dGPU. It originally came from this video:

link: youtube.com/watch?v=F2BWCzYKBYs


That mixing both videos into a single one - without telling what's what - was definitely not OK...
Great investigation. I'm assuming he used the other one due to better cooling? Maybe something else? It's just so strange... And why hide it?

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