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Microsoft paves the way for Linux gaming success with plan that would kill kernel-level anti-cheat

Started by Redaktion, September 14, 2024, 08:36:21

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Redaktion

Microsoft has officially announced its intent to move security measures out of the kernel, following the Crowdstrike disaster a few short months ago. The removal of kernel access for security solutions would likely revolutionise running Windows games on the Steam Deck and other Linux systems.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-paves-the-way-for-Linux-gaming-success-with-plan-that-would-kill-kernel-level-anti-cheat.888345.0.html

Dear MS

Please don't do this. Literally the only thing stopping me from moving / switching to steamOS and Linux is online multiplayer support. I already don't use MS Office and use Google docs instead. If this happens, what exactly am I going to use / need windows for? Everything else works far better on *nix.

alexpf

Why would you mind using Linux if everything there works better?
You're begging Microsoft to keep things artificially broken on Linux for what reason exactly?

If you still want to stay on Windows, cool, but you don't make sense, sorry


Blaine Mobley


Joey3155

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Let's go microsoft! Theres no reason anti cheats or any software needs direct kernal access. Especially with how easy it is for third parties to compromise the anti cheat itself and use it as a entry vector into the user's system. Nevermind the damage the anti cheat itself can do if it bugs out, Gameguard being the most dangerous of all. As far as I am concerned MS should have done this decades ago.

Wc

Yep...part of the reason why I don't play Valorant.  Wayyy too invasive and leaving it up to a gaming company to make sure the SW is safe.

Letoro

Crowdstrike got the right regulators looking at how invasive 3rd party software with kernel level access is and how destructive it is when misused. Microsoft is only doing this to cover themselves because they are now liable after Crowdstrike demostrated the destructive power of kernel level remote access.

Dishybat

Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?

FaggotSlayer

Quote from: Dishybat on September 15, 2024, 10:49:39Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?

Educate yourself you dumb phony faggot: wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
Anyone saying this is bad and that a corpo uses the kernel drivers for games which can be reversed by hackers to be used elsewhere like they did with the Genshin impact one can suck my kernel cock and seethe.

Some Guy

considering Valorant had a bug that hard-killed your network connection because the anti-cheat just spammed the s*** out of it i'd probably worry about that more than it being "invasive"

it has too much access and it's proven that it can't handle it

Joerct

Too little, too late, Microsoft.

I've now tasted Linux, and the next time I do a complete backup on my computer to get all my music in order, I'm ditching Windows for good.

I'm sick of dealing with the bloatware each time you do a fresh install and the fact that Microsoft keeps wanting to add ways to violate people's privacy (*cough cough COPILOT*).

Kernel-level access should've NEVER been given to programs, and while that sounds rather ignorant, you all now got to witness WHY. And I'd of thought we would've put a stop to this crap after the Sony rootkit debacle (remember that one? It was the DRM for CDs at the time...)

Joerct

Quote from: Dishybat on September 15, 2024, 10:49:39Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?

Lmao, ignorance at its finest. It's funny that you go to the worst possible extreme because someone mentions that they'd rather not have what amounts to a root kit installed to their system just to play that one game.

There are people who could care less that Valorant is a good game, we aren't ever playing it because we don't EVER want a root kit to touch our system. It happened back in the 90s/ early 00s each time we ripped a Sony CD, and ended up teaching Sony that lesson. Who else we gotta teach via a lawsuit?? Apparently you.

nicksor

Why not implement "server side" detection, similar to "EA fair play"? By tracking a user's game performance metrics and comparing them across the network of players, players with metrics outside the average can be further investigated / actioned.. This obviously wouldn't work if all a majority of the players were cheaters.. :D

FBL

FYI: the blog post this article links to is nothing more than a series of public relations wordsmithing with regards to some Windows enterprise security "summit" that focuses specifically on endpoint detection and response (EDR) solutions.

please don't read up on nonsense like this.

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