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Asus ProArt P16 laptop review - AMD Zen 5 meets RTX 4070 laptop and 4K OLED

Started by Redaktion, August 06, 2024, 11:00:29

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Redaktion

With the ProArt P16, Asus has released a powerful 16-inch laptop that combines the new AMD Zen 5 processor with the dedicated GeForce RTX 4070 laptop and 64 GB of RAM, however, its high-resolution 4K OLED touchscreen only offers a frequency of 60 Hz.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ProArt-P16-laptop-review-AMD-Zen-5-meets-RTX-4070-laptop-and-4K-OLED.871739.0.html

chris@amd

Too expensive, screen would be better with 3.2K 120Hz, they charge 400$ for 32GB (32to64GB) and too black. i think color of macbook pro 16 is much nicer. the only stellar thing is AMD zen5 processor and asus used this to leverage the high price. we need laptop manufacturer to use LPCAMM2 modules to end to this non-sense pricing.

usacomputer

Quote from: chris@amd on August 06, 2024, 12:01:00Too expensive, screen would be better with 3.2K 120Hz, they charge 400$ for 32GB (32to64GB) and too black. i think color of macbook pro 16 is much nicer. the only stellar thing is AMD zen5 processor and asus used this to leverage the high price. we need laptop manufacturer to use LPCAMM2 modules to end to this non-sense pricing.

Totally agree, too expensive. ASUS takes advantage of the good performance and performance of AMD Zen 5 and hence its high price. For me, this ultrabook's price would be $2,500 and the truth is that it is time to put LPCAMM2 memories that are cheaper and give more performance than traditional ones, in addition to producing lower temperatures and their performance is much higher than traditional ones, in addition to their ease of exchanging them, something that all manufacturers should allow the user to do.

Real NikoB (old bl)

Well, now it is clear that Zen5 of this version will not reach 5200+ points in CBR15 even at 110W, like 7945HX, i.e. Zen4 is more energy efficient than Zen5, it is a fact. Funny? Sad.

On the one hand, the owner gets a much more efficient memory controller than in Zen4 (and probably 64GB soldered is available only in Zen4 Phoenix and Zen5), on the other hand, at 80W PL1 7945HX would have given out figures in the region of 4500-4700 in CBR15, which is clearly faster for the kind of work for which such series are bought...

Let's move on - 16", but again a cropped keyboard. Although the target group is like creative "artists", they probably don't need a numpad..

The consequence of the low weight and thin case was increased noise even at rest, as well as pre-critical heating with the exhaust of hot air under the screen and onto the screen.

This author, as usual, misleads readers about the "infinite black level". In reality, such a black level is possible only on AMOLED panels with the "True Black HDR XXX" nameplate, and here it is not, which means the real contrast (and the level black) for AMOLED screens are a priori shameful, so Asus did not receive a certificate-nameplate for this screen.

Another strange Frankentshane from Asus at a clearly inflated price of at least 800-1000 euros. But at least it showed us for the first time the limits of performance, or rather scalability depending on TDP. We learned from this review that at high consumption levels, Zen5 Strix Point 100% loses in pure performance (at least on old code, of which there is a lot) to the 45 series Zen4.

ArsLoginName

Thanks for toning it down Niko or whomever is pretending to be Niko.

Most people would be okay with losing to 12 cores of Zen 4 with or without 3D cache by a little by 19% while consuming 33% less power, being almost 5 dBa quieter, and for 30% more battery life. It is clear AMD went for efficiency improvements with Strix Point. The Asus Zenbook S 16 review showed at lower TDPs, Strix Point gives HS levels of performance while consuming U levels of power. 

As for the screen, Asus needs to offer the 3200x2000 panel again.


gobbel

Quote from: Real NikoB (old bl) on August 06, 2024, 14:23:59like 7945HX
Lol 7945HX+4070 had like two-three times less battery life, wtf are you even mumbling about. 7945HX was a bad chip made with a single reason to battle bad Intel chips. New times require new approaches, it's not about raw power anymore, it's about power/performance/area balance.

Ednumero

Good subpixel arrangement photo! Perfectly aligned and correctly demonstrates the vertical orientation of the blue stripes. One could complain that it's still upside down, but that's small potatoes in comparison.

On the product itself, it is nice to see that a 3840x option made a comeback. However, this resolution in OLED format is overdue for a bump to 90Hz. It's also aggravating that they continued with the "ProArt" label underneath. This naming already alienates non-creators who might simply be in it for the specs, display, or design, not to mention the staggeringly repair-unfriendly nature of the edge-to-edge glass panel it's printed on. This product line truly peaked in its first OLED design iteration, and only fell off since.


Fuad

Is the structure seen in the review of the PX13 model (presumably from the touch structure) not present in P16?

systemBuilder22

Disappointing.  State of the art pricing, but the 16" model doesn't go into tent mode so its just a crappy clamshell with a 60Hz OLED display, THAT'S so 2019!  Take away the CPU and the product is meh!

Real NikoB (name bl)

Quote from: Steven22 on August 06, 2024, 22:34:03
Quote from: ArsLoginName on August 06, 2024, 21:55:25or whomever is pretending to be Niko
Pretty sure it's the same retard.
I wonder why the local asshole moderator allows direct insults?

The rest of the commentators are probably dyslexic, because in my comment I clearly stated why and for what purpose I compared Zen4 HX with Zen5 Strix Point. And battery life here does not matter at all, they need pure performance, and the 80W PL1 test CLEARLY shows that this model is designed to work only from a power supply.

7945HX clearly beats Zen5 Strix Point at 80W from a PSU. That's the point. But the local bots certainly don't understand this, they act with false attacks according to a stupid manual handed down from above. Or they are just idiots...

ArsLoginName

Quote from: Real NikoB (name bl) on August 07, 2024, 14:17:07The rest of the commentators are probably dyslexic, because in my comment I clearly stated why and for what purpose I compared Zen4 HX with Zen5 Strix Point. And battery life here does not matter at all, they need pure performance, and the 80W PL1 test CLEARLY shows that this model is designed to work only from a power supply.

7945HX clearly beats Zen5 Strix Point at 80W from a PSU. That's the point. But the local bots certainly don't understand this, they act with false attacks according to a stupid manual handed down from above. Or they are just idiots...

No idea on moderator. But my comments are not dyslexic in the slightest. The performance value you quote for the 7845HX was while it was consuming long term of 118 W according to Notebookcheck's database/review unit. Please link the 80 W results you are claiming.

Else it's a moot point because Asus (and AMD) were going for a more balanced approach for this laptop (and processor/APU): lower maximum power consumption means less cooling means less weight and longer battery life. This is the lightest 16" laptop in this little comparison article if I remember correctly.

Just because in your mind you want 120+ W from a notebook when plugged in, not everybody does. Maybe some laptop manufacturer will make a laptop with this chip with 110+ W for you. You just have to wait for it or make it yourself.

ArsLoginName

Oh and if you want to compare it to the 7945HX, why would a 12 core 370HX with 8 lower frequency more compact area cores beat a 16 core desktop processor when both made on a very similar node? The IPC gains would have had to be in excess of 25-30% for that to happen.

John Doe

The is one of the lightest and thinnest 16" laptops on the market, with video and load battery runtimes better than an arm-based M3 MacBook Pro 16" on a smaller battery. So, if it's super portable and one of the best runtimes for a creator focused laptop, I would be surprised if ASUS did that by mistake and had to tell everyone not to unplug it.

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The rest of the commentators are probably dyslexic, because in my comment I clearly stated why and for what purpose I compared Zen4 HX with Zen5 Strix Point. And battery life here does not matter at all, they need pure performance, and the 80W PL1 test CLEARLY shows that this model is designed to work only from a power supply.[/quote]

ertyldia

Quote from: John Doe on August 07, 2024, 17:20:25runtimes better than an arm-based M3 MacBook Pro 16" on a smaller battery
What? M3 Pro mops the floor with AMD runtime, even M3 Max (which is much more performant) runs longer.
AMD shills have no boundaries.

Quote from: Real NikoB (name bl) on August 07, 2024, 14:17:07And battery life here does not matter at all, they need pure performance
Who "they" lol, everyone else is explaining you battery life is more important.

Quote from: Real NikoB (name bl) on August 07, 2024, 14:17:07why the local asshole moderator allows direct insults?
Man is in a serious paranoia.

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