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[GeorgeS]

Since I am typing this currently from a laptop with 4th gen intel processor and don't have a lag fest.

It is 100% lie.

I am literally on it right now, it is funny you think my personal experience isn't real when I am literally on it right now. If I were running windows it may be a lagfest, but I am running linux

My current everyday system is a 2013 13" MBP with 2.4 GHz Core i5 (I5-4258U) (this is a Dual Core folks)

- 8GB of memory, 256GB of SSD (87GB available)
- +100 tabs open in Firefox
- 6.8-7GB of memory used
- 2118 threads, 289 processes
- %10-15 CPU load, %90-95 Idle
- 10 applications open

Not at all 'laggy'.

Obviously YMMV.

[wondows]

Let me quickly translate

My current everyday system

"Hi guys I am running a system that is 3 times less powerful than a phone for 7-10 times more energy used just so I have something to say on the internets"

- 6.8-7GB of memory used

"And swap"

%10-15 CPU load, %90-95 Idle

"I don't even move the mouse"

+100 tabs open in Firefox

"Only couple are actually loaded, without heavy animations and javascript."

Not at all 'laggy'.

"Laggy as crap compared to anything modern"

10 applications open

"Apps are from 2008"

[GeorgeS]

Let me quickly translate

My current everyday system

"Hi guys I am running a system that is 3 times less powerful than a phone for 7-10 times more energy used just so I have something to say on the internets"

- 6.8-7GB of memory used

"And swap"

%10-15 CPU load, %90-95 Idle

"I don't even move the mouse"

+100 tabs open in Firefox

"Only couple are actually loaded, without heavy animations and javascript."

Not at all 'laggy'.

"Laggy as crap compared to anything modern"

10 applications open

"Apps are from 2008"

LOL!! Your funny!!!

- Who cares if it uses more power than modern devices?
- Who cares how old the APP's are? If they work why replace them? (unless YOUR a SHEEP!!)
- True, Firefox may only have a few TAB's active - as ANY browser ought to. :)
- Snappy and responsive as the day I bought it.
- Swap is ~3GB - who cares? (it is PCIe SSD LONG before anybody else was doing that)

So while the lemmings and sheep keep ditching their perfectly functional devices because "something new and shinny!!!" is available, those of us that match the tool for the job spend our CHEC (cold hard earned cash) on other items.

I should mention that I DO HAVE a 2019 version with i7/16GB/512GB but can't stand the keyboard so it boxed up and collects dust on a shelf in the closet.

Newer is NOT always better or even needed.

[wondows]

Who cares if it uses more power than modern devices?

Everyone.

Who cares how old the APP's are?

Everyone. You can have Office 2013 but you can't have anything real productivity-related from 2013.

(unless YOUR a SHEEP!!)

lemmings and sheep

There we go, IQ of a typical Windows user

True, Firefox may only have a few TAB's active

+100 tabs open in Firefox

Lol.

Snappy and responsive as the day I bought it

No it's not, even web pages are more computationally expensive today.

Swap is ~3GB - who cares?

The story about "using 6.7-7GB" didn't age well. Yeah, who cares about running on hard drive instead of RAM in the conversation about "snappy and responsive".

I DO HAVE a 2019 version with i7/16GB/512GB but can't stand the keyboard so it boxed up

Are you some kind of hoarder

Newer is NOT always better or even needed.

Yeah right. Thanks for your opinion, it's very important to us.