Microsoft set to kill Windows Mail and Calendar apps in favor of much-maligned new Outlook app

[Redaktion]

Microsoft is ending support for the old Mail and Calendar apps in favor of the new Outlook app before 2024 comes to a close. The updated version of the new Outlook app notifies users that the toggle to shift to old version of the app will be much harder to find as the toggle is moving away from the homepage to inside Settings.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-set-to-kill-Windows-Mail-and-Calendar-apps-in-favor-of-much-maligned-new-Outlook-app.863303.0.html

[George]

Ok, call me silly but...

Personally I GAVE UP using a local Mail and Calendar clients BACK IN 1990's!!!

Why? Most (if not ALL) would automatically not only transfer the emails to your device BUT ALSO the ATTACHMENTS!!!

I'd guess that in a world where you ONLY got "safe" email and attachments this MIGHT be ok however even back in the 1990's one of the MAJOR INFECTION points was via eMail attachments (if not the eMail itself!) so might as well leave that possible MESS on someone else's server and not copy it to a local system. :)

Over the years I've made use of: Hotmail (renamed by MS multiple times), Yahoo and Gmail. All of which claim to attempt to keep up-to-date virus/trojan scanning of my inboxes and %95 of my access is via 'webmail'.

Sure, on my desktop/laptop computers I have to have multiple TAB's open in my browser, one for each inbox. Big deal. (I will use the unified inbox on my Apple mobile products)

I just assign ONE account to be sort of a 'master' (NOT a MS one) and sync my mobile device calendar's with THAT account.

I don't think I've EVER USED MS's "mail" or "calendar" apps - EVER! LOL!

[Jab]

Thunderbird is perfectly okay for me.

[NikoB]

Thunderbird is perfectly okay for me.

The entire program is poor in terms of convenience.

Outlook Express is the best email program, it was and is. Its only problem is that it cannot work normally with mail databases of approximately more than 1.1GB per file, and problems with mail loss begin. In terms of the convenience of the UI and settings for collecting mail from dozens of mailboxes, it has no equal.

The Bat, Thunderbird and even Outlook from Office were not even close in terms of flexibility of settings. In Thunderbird too (it's a shame) there's not even an option to add a button to the toolbar to poll all mailboxes at once!

It's a shame that the idiots at M$ killed the best email program of all time. It needs to be revived in exactly the same form as it was in XP, with the only difference being that problems with the size of mail databases are removed and support for new protocols is added.

However, the main problem is not the support of new protocols in old email programs, but the fact that almost all popular email services, in a totalitarian manner, began to force users to give them their phone number, supposedly for "secure" double authorization so that you can enable access "by password for applications" for access from email programs via pop3/imap - which is a complete lie on the part of their teams - it is double authorization via SMS that leads to real security problems, because intelligence agencies and simply criminals gain access to the mailbox through the recovery system via SMS, replacing SIM cards for a while. Only idiots (who are the majority on the planet) believe in the security of double authorization via SMS.

As I already wrote, Google mail has reached complete insanity. You can log into your account without double authorization (and they have removed the recovery system in case of paranoid access refusals under the stupid pretext that they allegedly cannot be sure that you are you!), but having ordered an archive of mail and files in the storage, you cannot download them without enabling double authorization! Google is clearly doing this on purpose.

In fact, today the only way to have normal mail is to organize a personal mail server at the router level with open-source firmware. At the same time, there is a second problem that Internet providers in different countries deliberately create - despite the fact that all equipment and software have long supported the IP6 protocol, where there are no problems with "white" IPs, they deliberately block most clients from the full use of IP6 in their networks, because this immediately eliminates their earnings from selling "white" IP with a monthly fee, under the pretext that there are only 4 billion of them, and there are already more than 8 billion people, not counting various equipment. Unfortunately, the problem cannot be resolved without legislative compulsion in all countries to force the transition of the entire infrastructure to IP6, including distributing exclusively IP6 addresses to clients, which are always unique and can be assigned to each person in huge quantities, which will ensure complete global coverage at the level of individual record binding DNS. This means independent services that work exclusively on the client's equipment for free. This is a 100% complot of providers, authorities and large companies that are not interested in p2p information exchange and the elimination of "cloud" services as they are.