Eurocom Raptor X17 Core i9-14900HX laptop review: 175 W GPU for maximum performance

[Redaktion]

Not much has changed with the Raptor X17 this year, but the model remains one of the few 17.3-inch gaming laptops with both 175 W GeForce RTX 4090 and PCIe5 NVMe SSD options.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Raptor-X17-Core-i9-14900HX-laptop-review-175-W-GPU-for-maximum-performance.809181.0.html

[NikoB]

The review has a clear fraud of the CPU results in CBR15 test. It is quite obvious who saw all the previous reviews on this site and on others that 14900HX is physically unable to issue such performance at 63W, but at least at 125-130W, at best.

Choosing in the description of the laptop is PL1 = 63W, and then below in the Cinebench R15 test, they see the result of the processor on PL> 120W. What is the noise in this case, the author? Is he also false in the review?

Well, during the operation of the CPU+GPU, it is quite obvious, the processor will never be able to reach 100W+, because there is not enough BP and therefore there are just a miserable 63W at best and not more than 2800-2900 points in CBR15.

We go further ...

The screen is excellent in PPI, but everyone spoils 3 points:
1. 16: 9 - Why not 16:10?
2. Low contrast 1135: 1, although at this price we expect at least 1500: 1.
3. The response of the panel, clearly speaking, which is not capable of at a frequency of 144Hz. In the best case, 80-90Hz.
Well, with this price, the coating in Adobergb should already be 95%+.

It is clearly visible that the mobile 4090 even at 175W is not able to issue stable 60FPS in 4K resolution in new games. Retopic is capable. Although the presence of a 4K panel solves the problem by switching to the pixelly sharp FHD mode, where 60FPS will always be provided.

The noise is monstrous in games, so I can't imagine who will spend time behind him even in headphones.

The keyboard, as has already been done by the manufacturers of such a train, is again spoiled (there is no classic numbered, because in place of the full insert shooter to the right), which immediately puts the cross on the model, as a universal laptop.

Well, to top it off the picture, according to the numbers of the author, heating the upper part exceeds 52C at the keyboard level. This means that with a closed screen and playing on an external monitor, this can lead to a quick failure of the screen panel, because She has a critical operating temperature just 50.

What is the point in such a "game" laptop at this level of noise? And when used as an office/working laptop, it is again too noisy.

I can hardly represent the target audience of such products.

[Ednumero]

I can appreciate the simple design language in this model. However, much of the allure of this size category is lost to the 16:9 aspect ratio. Scrolling is real, height matters, and this 17.3" 16:9 panel is only as tall as a 16" 16:10 panel, not to mention the loss in resolution assuming both panels are 3840px horizontally. I hope Eurocom can find their way out of this rut soon.

Also,

2K 240 Hz

Allen, please stop this. See the following:
- https://www.notebookchat.com/index.php?topic=176572.msg547369#msg547369
- https://www.notebookchat.com/index.php?topic=192330.msg582201#msg582201

[RobertJasiek]

16:9 - arrgh. Roughly $100 per decibel, LOL.

At least RAM (incl. latency, so it is possible for DDR5) and SSD (incl. 4K) speeds are good and partially impressive.

[NikoB]

and SSD (incl. 4K) speeds are good

The speed of an SSD in 4k blocks is still 100 times lower than that of RAM. Therefore, the more RAM, the better - the later the system will have to use the swap file. Unfortunately, unlike XP, in Vista+ the swap file (page) cannot be disabled completely. This is why XP has such an outstanding response when the swap file is disabled - it does not exchange with the disk at all when working with the swap file disabled, except for loading programs and data into memory. Everything runs entirely from RAM. Of course, until the moment when it ends, then a system collapse occurs.

I would like to work again without a swap file, but alas in W10/11 this is impossible, even if you disable the swap file they still enable it secretly. Because that's their model. And therefore they are very dependent on the performance of the disk system. And an SSD-based disk system practically does not improve performance in 4k blocks. Over the past 7 years, it has increased at best 2-3 times, against the background of a 100-fold loss of RAM.

And x86 RAM itself is extremely slow - more and more cores are suffocating with such low bandwidth. You need 200GB/s+, or better yet 300+, especially on computers without a dedicated gpu. Which itself suffers from a slow pci-e bus.

It turns out to be a crutch on a crutch in x86. Data and code have to wade through a bunch of cache layers, which increases the latency and response of the system and software by orders of magnitude.

Only server owners with HBM3 can enjoy true performance with RAM speeds of 1TB/s. In addition, pci-e 6.0 is already being implemented there in 2024 and 7.0 is already being tested. When in consumer x86, to the shame of the industry, despite the presence of fake (essentially) pci-e 5.0 controllers, not a single video card supports this standard so far. And again for obvious reasons - RAM is many times slower than it should be on x86.

We are fed crumbs of progress for crazy money in a circle, year after year. But there has been no real progress in x86 technology for a long time. The platform is dead.

[RobertJasiek]

From a broader perspective, you are right. I have presumed the narrow perspective of comparing to other typically tested parts though.

[NikoB]

More broadly, what the leather jacket introduced yesterday in the Blackwell B200 should already be in the average laptop if advances in technology were as expected in the 90s.

It is the specified speeds of RAM and its volumes that should now be present in an ordinary laptop, and its performance in FP64 should be close to petaflops. And the disk capacity should be around 100TB+, as a minimum.

It is with such an ordinary, mass-produced PC/laptop that the average person could really enter the world of neural networks and new technologies.

But alas, progress has slowed down by orders of magnitude since then, and this new world will only be accessible to the rich. As always.