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Lenovo ThinkPad P16s G2 AMD review: Power plus OLED inside this workstation laptop

Started by Redaktion, January 25, 2024, 17:45:13

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Redaktion

Powerful with a gleaming OLED display and an acceptable iGPU. Adding to this is a whole variety of extras, creating a workstation that's true to its name. The ThinkPad workstation's features continue with a robust case, stable keyboard, security functions and remote maintenance. However, the device can't escape all criticism.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P16s-G2-AMD-review-Power-plus-OLED-inside-this-workstation-laptop.796559.0.html

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on January 25, 2024, 19:25:55💩💩💩

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Quote from: NikoB on January 25, 2024, 19:25:55Moreover, with a basic warranty of only 1 year, shameful for such a series...

https://imgur.com/VgTRGnH

Base Warranty 3-year, Courier or Carry-in
Included Upgrade CO2 Offset 0.5 ton, 1Y Premier Support from 3Y Depot Windchill bundles  (CPN)

Model from the review, 21K9000CGE: https://psref.lenovo.com/Detail/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_P16s_Gen_2_AMD?M=21K9000CGE


Neenyah

Quote from: apple shill on January 25, 2024, 22:06:01another macbookair killer that could not kill air even in price
Ctrl+F for "air" gives three results in the whole article - repairs, Nvidia HairWorks Off, paired.

Although just having an easily replaceable SSD is enough to "kill" the Air but yeah, where did you see any "Air killer" is intriguing...



Poster

I really do not comprehend this P series anymore. It thought it is to be a mobile workstation line which one would expect better screen options and a very fast ethernet connection (1gb doesn't cut it for a workstation). Soldered ram!? Even for an 'S' model, this is unacceptable. Also I'm absolutely tired of manufacturers skimpy on usb4.0 ports on AMD products no matter the product bline - either not offering 2(where Intel counterparts have 2 thunderbolt ports) or even one port not offering ALL the features installed. Why is it always the hassle!?

edram

"Its integrated graphics chip achieves similar performance to the Nvidia RTX 2050."

Yeah, right... More like Nvidia 1050.

Neenyah

Quote from: Poster on January 26, 2024, 23:29:45Soldered ram!? Even for an 'S' model, this is unacceptable.
Blame AMD for that and for being uncompetitive with slower RAM which is in SO-DIMM modules and not in BGA packages (soldered); yes there are 6000-6400 SO-DIMMs but far more expensive and more unreliable than simply soldering. Intel has no such issues of soldered-only, as this same model with Intel CPU has soldered + one free slot, and they are on par in performance with AMD - with much slower RAM. That says enough.

OTOH if there was slower RAM installed here in widely-available slow(er) SO-DIMMs this CPU wouldn't be able to compete with Intel i3s and the iGPU would be slower than the Iris Xe; then people would obviously find that problematic despite being easy to upgrade their RAM. Seriously, blame AMD for needing the fastest possible RAM to match and barely beat Intel.

Quote from: edram on January 27, 2024, 17:35:11"Its integrated graphics chip achieves similar performance to the Nvidia RTX 2050."

Yeah, right... More like Nvidia 1050.
It's basically identical to the RTX 2050 and even faster in many benchmarks; here, one of the faster 2050s in the review.

  • 3DMark Fire Strike Score: 7524 points 780M vs 7230 points RTX 2050
  • The Witcher 1080p High: 47 fps 780M vs 46.7 fps RTX 2050

And so on...



Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on January 27, 2024, 20:50:11Again the troll makes competent people laugh - where did he find that the 7840HS was as slow in PL1 as 1370p? I am waiting..
The 7840HS is not even available in the P16s G2 AMD, only R5 PRO 7540U and R7 PRO 7840U are, but I know that your fish brain is not aware that CPUs are not perma-locked at PL1. Why are you even comparing two totally different classes of CPUs, lol? Why not compare the 7840HS with something from its class, like the i7 13700H? Oh I know why, because the former is equal at worst, but oftentimes better.

But even the weaker 1370P (a CPU comparable with the R7 7840U) is standing pretty good against the class-higher 7840HS; better power efficiency, similar single core performance, fairly close in multi core, overall only 13% slower while being more efficient. Not bad for a smaller chip.

Neenyah

Quote from: NikoB on January 27, 2024, 20:50:11Again the troll makes competent people laugh
Btw, this is completely hilarious thing from you to say, a clownlord who can't even read how long is the warranty of the machine. You are only competent in being brainless, that's pretty obvious from all your spammed s*** across this forum.

dragonl4

Not really impressed by the 780M performance.
I will only be impressed if when an iGPU can beat an entry level GPU from last generation like the RX6600.


edram


Joe Balke

Little time between the review and my comment, but this is by far the best article I have found regarding the Lenovo P16S Gen 2.
 
I only wish there were images of the interior, however these were easily found on video sites.
 
I am a target user because I am a business user, and a technical/software writer/designer user.   For the price, this seems to be a great machine.    You are critical of the OLED for its power usage, but for those of us spending 12 hours a day in front of the display, a tremendous display is far more desirable than a couple of hours of battery life....especially when we are getting 8 hours to begin with.
 
What is also missing from this article is the fact Intel has an ENORMOUS problem on its hand with its 13th and 14th gen CPU's.   Apparently every one of them is going to need a microcode update to prevent them from burning up. 

I cannot wait to get my new machine, as my current HP is 10+ years old.    I am sure there will be some keyboard pains and many many more Win7 to Win11 pains.

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