Replacing diesel trucks with electric semis led to charging time and load loss passed on to customers

[Redaktion]

Green energy initiatives that will mandate all new semis be electric starting January 1, have led to $310 loss per truck. The long-haul company then had to pass it to its customers in order to break even.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Replacing-diesel-trucks-with-electric-semis-led-to-charging-time-and-load-loss-passed-on-to-customers.788161.0.html

[Adam222222]

Come on, read this news before posting. "losing $310 per electric truck" per what? per day, per month, per 1000km? Garbage information.

[not_anton]

I read a story about electric truck in Sweden. The driver goes from Stockholm to somewhere else in a fixed route. The company built a super high power truck charger at the place of the drivers' mandatory stop and rest, and the truck charges during that resting time. Replaced diesel with electric trucks with zero downtime.

Electric trucks are coming when infrastructure catches up.

[D.H]

Summary: Electric trucks are useful, infrastructure needs improvement.

Guess what, it was the same thing for early days in passenger car EVs. Now there's 2100+ Tesla Superchargers and a similar number from other brands across the US. The infrastructure problem will get fixed to solve this pain point for electric trucking too.

[A]

Summary: Electric trucks are useful

That was not the idea of original WSJ article.
Driver was idling while charging on his paid time, EV truck can carry smaller loads so it has limited use.

Increased costs are compensated by raising delivery costs. And their customer will of course include raised costs in retail price, so eventually those costs are coming down on YOU.

[geemy]

electrification is needed but it's often done the wrong way. instead of mandating diesel truck they should start by a electrifying all the shirt range trucks and passenger vehicles that can charge overnight and drive all day on a charge, with zero need for expensive infrastructures like super high speed DC chargers. just good old proven tech and batteries kept within 20-80% and charged level 2 overnight will last forever. level 1-2 chargers cnn be mass produced for very cheap. they don't even convert AC to DC or convert voltage, electricity just passes through. . public/school busses, dump trucks, delivery vans etc. they all do a lot of driving at low speed, in urban or residential areas, with a lot of stop signs , stop and go etc.these are the low hanging fruits that generates the most emissions, particles where the most people live.

[BRK9999]

This article is so full of misinformation that it makes me wonder who got paid off to get this published. For instance, "truckers have to use public charging stations that aren't created for parking semis". No, semi tractors use a completely different connector than the public chargers because of the higher current delivery. Clearly, no research was done for this "article" and much of it was made up ("losing $310 per electric truck").

[EVReality]

Truckers & their unions have brought this misery upon themselves by not changing with times. Its insane that 18whlrs are creeping at 2-4 mph in rush hour AM & PM Congested traffic, polluting Diesel fumes & obstructing traffic. You can Normalize Insanity with abnormal Legacy Stoic tactics only for so long before the Public will get frustrated and start burying you into the ground! Spoiler Alert - If you raise prices Tesla, Nikola & Amazon will bankrupt and run you into ground so deep, that you will not see light of day! Be Smart and find ways of keeping costs down and make both drivers & consumers happy. Just look at & ask GM/Ford/Ram what happens when you go rough shod with EV reality!

[Diesel D]

I'd rather quit Driving than Drive a truck with an automatic transmission or an electric motor  I couldn't imagine not having straight stacks no JAKE Not being able to shift BORING ! And Teslas are UGLY Sorry Elon you need to rethink this one ! I bet the drivers are  having fun handing paperwork to the guard at the gate !  TIMES ARE CHANGING DRIVERS !

[Anti-propaganda man]

EVs for haulage? That is not smart. They scale best in the other direction where things powered by small lithium batteries work the best. That's why they started in small electronics. Ever used a diesel engine to power a laptop? Just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyxcToWvLCs - American Trucking Association says tests replacing diesel with EVs mean a 3:2 or 2:1 ratio increase in the number of trucks required for the same tasks, due to charging downtime and lower load capacity. The batteries weigh 3 tonnes or more. Need to commandeer global lithium supply for 7 years to make all US trucks EV. Other rare metals 35 years of global supply needed. Need a little more forethought here.

[WorldCTZen]

People worry about "load losses" per truck.
While an EV truck might haul fewer pounds, those pounds are costing significantly less to deliver, meaning they're more profitable for the fleet.
The math works out to where a fleet can afford to run two EV trucks for the cost of running one diesel truck, even accounting for the wages of the drivers.
End result - more profits per truck or more haulage for the same price, fleetwide.
Fossil fuel vehicles are already dead man walking,they just haven't realized it yet.

[A]

those pounds are costing significantly less to deliver, meaning they're more profitable for the fleet

Article says literally the opposite.

[HoT Rod]

Drive to the state line and drop the load, or don,t carry loads for California.

[RS]

It is plane n simple it is called climate scam. Billionaires buy mansions around the world by beaches. If it really was a urgent climate issue Billionaires would dump their properties. Also ask yourself why are they building bunkers around the world?  Will there be a emp attack or a dirty n bomb go off? Think about it.

[Ronald Neely]

Electric grid can't handle it. Unless a mysterious asteroid falls to earth and gives out energy to earth!