Apple MacBook Pro 14 2023 M3 Max Review - The fastest CPU in a 14-inch laptop

[NikoB]

Mmm, "prices in China for Chinese Lenovo models" are being listed in USD. In China

Complete nonsense, they are always in yuan.

I don't even need to convert into yuan, because in my local marketplace with local guarantees, the same models from China are sold for $1200-1300, with confirmed certificates of originality of the products. The difference with the local marketplace and Chinese chain stores is that there you can clearly select the some configurations from the factory directly from Lenovo. Immediately choosing 64GB of RAM. Which, of course, and as always, is extremely unprofitable, neither in price nor in terms of warranty. It's easier to buy 64GB, throw out 16GB from the factory (which no one will buy at a flea market anyway and there's simply nowhere to put it) and install it yourself. At the same time, the local warranty for the modules will be 10 years, and not 1 year, as part of the laptop. It's the same with SSDs. It's more profitable to take the minimum config 16/512-1024 from China and rearrange the memory and SSD yourself. Everyone who buys does exactly this, everyone who takes it for business. And it is several times cheaper than any workstation.

Naturally, the MacBook 16 Pro with M3 Max is lighter, more autonomous and faster on battery power, and it has a milled metal body. It is, of course, much more reliable - after all, its total consumption is less than 125W, and the power components and motherboard are much cheaper in L5Pro.

But overall, this is a complete failure for Apple in terms of choosing a universal laptop for the home or office.

For the price of one Macbook 16 Pro with M3 Max, you can easily get 4xL5Pro in the 7945HX+4060+64GB/8TB configuration each.

Apple fans' asses are burning with blue flames...

Apple equipment has always had a markup of 300%, minimum. Well, let Apple fans continue to sponsor Apple developments. Everyone is just glad that at least part of the money is not going to golden toilets and yachts with football clubs (www.bnnbloomberg.ca/adelson-family-to-buy-sports-team-with-2-billion-share-sale-1.2004572) .

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Naturally, the MacBook 16 Pro with M3 Max is lighter, more autonomous and faster on battery power, and it has a milled metal body. It is, of course, much more reliable - after all, its total consumption is less than 125W, and the power components and motherboard are much cheaper in L5Pro.

yeah yeah and MBP is faster, and has a better screen, by a mile.

For the price of one Macbook 16 Pro with M3 Max, you can easily get 4xL5Pro in the 7945HX+4060+64GB/8TB configuration each.

So you need four laptops or just one that is better in every way? )

Apple fans' asses are burning with blue flames...

Nah, guy with $4300 laptop was WAY more reasonable than you, at least GPU there was mopping the floor with mac.

Well, will you finally show us where we can buy it for $1200? Link? Anything? Please don't forget the import fee.

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with local guarantees

A nice way to say 'no warranty'.

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prior to version 6 considering that M1 and M2 weren't topping any charts in Geekbench 5

Yeah, forgot to note, it's not even the case here.
7945HX is slower on both geekbench 5 and 6.

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such as Cinebench R23, are invalid

They are OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED invalid, because optimizations for ARM started only in Cinebench 2024:

Cinebench 2024 is designed to accommodate a broad range of hardware configurations - while it seamlessly supports x86/64 architecture (Intel/AMD) on Windows and macOS, it also extends its reach to Apple Silicon on macOS and Arm64 CPUs on Windows, ensuring compatibility with the latest advancements in hardware technology.

And scores are also in

Single-core
7945HX - 114
M3 Max 16C40G - 141

Multi-core
7945HX - 1669
M3 Max 16C40G - 1607

You noticed how 2x performance gap suddenly disappeared? Stay tuned for further optimizations - I think it's just a start.

[NikoB]

The PROOF from China official site of Lenovo:
mitem.lenovo.com.cn/product/1030510.html
~1260$
And that config much faster(from PSU) then M3 Max Macbook 16 Pro 2023 ...=)

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Promises

7945HX+4060+64GB/8TB

for $1200-1300

Now let's see the bullsh*t we got

The PROOF from China official site of Lenovo:
mitem.lenovo.com.cn/product/1030510.html
~1260$
And that config much faster(from PSU) then M3 Max Macbook 16 Pro 2023 ...=)

a) Local Chinese shop without international delivery
b) 16Gb RAM lol, poor NikoB really hoped no one will notice
b) You've conveniently 'forgot' about import fees 30-50% - or have to pay for trip to China
c) Promises of 'local warranty' were bs of course
d) Price IMMEDIATELY grows to $1420 if you pick a 32Gb RAM config, and there's no 64Gb config lol
So in the end with all the fees this laptop will cost around $2K or more.

Why have you even bothered to bring this sh*t here if you were warned THREE TIMES we will check it at least for import tax. What a loser lol.

And that config much faster(from PSU) then M3 Max Macbook 16 Pro 2023...=)

Only in your schizophrenic reality.

[Axel]

Hi! What kind of benchmark tool did you use in the gaming youtube video? Looks like MSI afterburner but as far as i know MSI Afterburner is not available for Mac OS?
Thanks
Axel

[NikoB]

a) Local Chinese shop without international delivery
b) 16Gb RAM lol, poor NikoB really hoped no one will notice
b) You've conveniently 'forgot' about import fees 30-50% - or have to pay for trip to China
c) Promises of 'local warranty' were bs of course
d) Price IMMEDIATELY grows to $1420 if you pick a 32Gb RAM config, and there's no 64Gb config lol
So in the end with all the fees this laptop will cost around $2K or more.

Why have you even bothered to bring this sh*t here if you were warned THREE TIMES we will check it at least for import tax. What a loser lol.

Our dear clown A, I can buy it, this particular config in the local marketplace with a 1-year warranty for $1300 including shipping costs.

DDR5 2x32GB 5600 (it will easily work like a 5200) costs $210 at my local store with a 10 year warranty.

SSD drives for every taste with a 5-year warranty. So it all depends on your desires - 2-4GB without problems up to $300.

Yes, unfortunately, you can't install 128-256GB on Zen4, only on Zen4 Phoenix, but I think this is not a super problem, considering that your beautiful M3 Max with 128GB on board costs more than $9,000.

1300+210+450-500$ (2x4Tb SSD with 5 year warranty) - 2000$,

So for $9000 you can easily buy fully packaged 4 pieces of L5Pro with 7945HX+4060+64GB/8TB.

Q.E.D.

Turn off the bot and don't embarrass yourself anymore. If you were hoping to get money from Apple, then there will be no bonus for November.

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So it all depends on your desires - 2-4GB without problems up to $300.

Wait-wait, you've promised 8Gb and it has to be a good one. )) Again thought no one will notice?

1300+210+450-500$ (2x4Tb SSD with 5 year warranty) - 2000$,

Exactly, clown, just as I said lol:

So in the end with all the fees this laptop will cost around $2K or more.

So for $9000 you can easily buy fully packaged 4 pieces of L5Pro with 7945HX+4060+64GB/8TB.

Also M3 Max 64/8 is just $6400. Even "$9000" is a lie, clown.
So it's not news you can get more laptops that are slower and worse overall in every single aspect.

So many messages just to see how you sh*t your pants while constantly trying to lower your laptop price and raise price on MBP.

[NikoB]

I just see how "A"'s a** is burning. I can just see how he emits rays of hatred (or diarrhea) from the way he shamefully flushed himself into the toilet. =)))

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I just see how "A"'s a** is burning. I can just see how he emits rays of hatred (or diarrhea) from the way he shamefully flushed himself into the toilet. =)))

^ reaction of a clown when he happily thinks he got away with lying he can get a $1900 laptop for $1300 in russia.

Yeah right, keep on.

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But you actually can put that Lenovo out against M3Pro and be roughly on par in CPU/GPU, with a slight win for Lenovo.

Geekbench 6.2 same result
In Cinebench 2024 M3Pro loses.
Wildlife Extreme GPU same result
Geekbench 6.2 GPU compute M3Pro slightly loses, you can directly compare Metal and CUDA scores (but it's 8Gb VRAM vs 24Gb VRAM, so I'd give a BIG win to M3Pro here - no point in having more compute if it just doesn't fit in VRAM)

Of course other than CPU/GPU Lenovo will lose in screen, build, power consumption, support - like, in everything else - by a mile.

If you ignore NikoBipolar's lies about Lenovo price, it will be $2000 vs $3100 for 32/1 config.

[RobertJasiek]

consumertechwarehouse @ Youtube compares Blender on the GPU:

~5250 points, ROG G14 4080 Laptop 7940HS

~270 points, Macbook M3 Pro 18 cores

Nvidia is some 19.4 times faster than Apple.

This shows why NBC does not even dare to compare Blender on the GPU directly.

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Blender on the GPU

Idk, probably he hadn't used latest Blender 4.1 (or 4.0.1, i don't remember), where support for M3 raytracing was added.

There are official scores of their own benchmark on Blender site and it's 8000+ 4090 laptop and 1314 M2 Pro.

In real test though, just so you understand how that HUGE gap is scaled to real world
youtube.com/watch?v=Teb4HlsW2PI
4080 (scores 6000) takes 45 seconds to render a scene and M3 Pro (scores 1300) takes 57 seconds.
4090 (scores 8000) will be faster.

And remember, requiring THIS to beat 30W GPU might be considered a win for Apple Silicon by some ))

Also Tomb Raider isn't a native ARM game so make your own decision if you can trust that reviewer, 2 misses out of 2.