Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 11 Laptop Review: Virtual machine beast with CPU trouble

[Redaktion]

The Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon G11 is the first model of this line with up to 64 GB of RAM. To get this amount of RAM, users have to buy a version with the most powerful P28-CPU, the i7-1370P. Unfortunately, as our review shows, this CPU is ill-suited for this elegant business laptop.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-Gen-11-Laptop-Review-Virtual-machine-beast-with-CPU-trouble.759626.0.html

[Davethegray]

Look again at the PWM: at higher (but way below max) brightness levels like 6/10 (which is probably 1/3) of max luminance/voltage) the variations in voltage/luminance are tiny compare to the average.
So although the PWM frequency is low, at these brightness levels it is not impactful.

Actually it is a very good point to make to readers that 6/10 looks like a healthy low-light setting for prolonged use ; avoid going below 5/10.

Zooming in close and losing site of the absolute levels is misleading.

[PHVM_BR]

Ridiculous that Lenovo makes this CPU available for this notebook with this long-term power limit.

28W is the minimum acceptable for these 6 P-core/8 E-core.
Anything less is making a fool of the consumer!

[LL]

That CPU is there to justify the laptop crazy cost.

[Neenyah]

Beautiful laptop but holy hell I will never understand why do OEMs put a powerful CPU PLUS OLED combo unless it's a thicker & heavier desktop-replacement laptop. Like seriously, wtf? It's a slam-dunk guarantee to get short battery life 🙄🔫

[RobertJasiek]

PR managers think that mirroring OLED was good for dull PR while they think that battery life and display flickering were unsuitable for informed PR. The dull customer decides in the first second choosing the shiny, colourful display while the informed customer seeks lasting, healthy value.

[Neenyah]

Spot on, Robert, spot on 👍 You are completely right there, unfortunately.

[Bizarro_NikoB]

I can't see buying this when the T14/T14s AMD variants are viable competitors with better battery life and better thermals and not that much thicker.

[ariliquin]

Why not compare this to the Apple Macbook Pro, this is a valid option and comparison. AMD is not the only competitor in the notebook space. 

[lmao]

while the informed customer seeks lasting, healthy value

care to share what hardware you are running? we already have an 'informed customer' with some s*** laptop even in terms of 2018.
very interested to find out what is other 'informed customer' writing his opuses on.

[RobertJasiek]

what hardware you are running?

You might have found it by search but here for your convenience:

7100U barebone with passive cooling for office applications. (Fast enough. What matters is silence.)

8C/16T + 4070 (with Tensor RT libraries) + 64GB desktop at ca. 37dB for Go AI. (For this application, the hardware components are well balanced, except that the 12GB VRAM is a total overkill as long as I do not use other dGPU applications.)

iPad mini 4 16GB for tablet use. (Desparately waiting for a Windows tablet with similar hardware, albeit much more storage.)

[lmao]

what hardware you are running?

You might have found it by search but here for your convenience:
7100U barebone with passive cooling for office applications. (Fast enough. What matters is silence.)
8C/16T + 4070 (with Tensor RT libraries) + 64GB desktop at ca. 37dB for Go AI. (For this application, the hardware components are well balanced, except that the 12GB VRAM is a total overkill as long as I do not use other dGPU applications.)
iPad mini 4 16GB for tablet use. (Desparately waiting for a Windows tablet with similar hardware, albeit much more storage.)

so you don't have a laptop and your tablet has a glossy screen. and here you are calling yourself an 'informed customer' in laptop discussion and promoting matte screens.
just as expected, 'expert' level confirmed.

Go AI

it's not go ai, it's go game engine.
again, for stubborn dummies, 'ai' has to 100% work on neural networks, to simulate human brain.

[RobertJasiek]

If a tablet with other acceptable specifications and a matte display existed, I would have bought it paying additional €400 for just the matteness of the display. However, it has not existed. Therefore, I had to buy the least evil with a glare display with, IIRC, 1,8% reflectance.

The best of the tablets with a matte (same for semi-matte) display was 16:9, for which I have absolutely no use.

Matte, 4:3 and long battery life has only been available for ebook readers (or Amazon crap for a year or two), for which I have too little use to justify such as a tablet substitute or extra gadget.

A notebook cannot be a tablet replacement for me as I frequently use portrait position and never need a physical keyboard for tablet usage. A notebook might only serve me as a desktop replacement and for that purpose only if the display is (notch-free of course and) matte or at least semi-matte very close to matte. That is, much less reflectance than my glare, 1.8% reflectance tablet. I will never buy a notebook with glare display. I want to see the display contents and do not want a mirror.

AI: enjoy calling whatever you want 'AI' but do not expect everybody to share your semantics.

[lmao]

f a tablet with other acceptable specifications and a matte display existed, I would have bought it paying additional €400 for just the matteness of the display. However, it has not existed. Therefore, I had to buy the least evil with a glare display with, IIRC, 1,8% reflectance.

i don't need your excuses lmao, you are yet another local 'informed customer' with bad hardware decisions.

A notebook cannot be a tablet replacement for me as I frequently use portrait position and never need a physical keyboard for tablet usage.

what are you doing in laptop discussion man, no one here cares about your tablet requirements, go away now

AI: enjoy calling whatever you want 'AI' but do not expect everybody to share your semantics.

you are just being stubborn as usual, no one is calling stockfish 'chess ai' despite technologically it's basically almost the same as yours, but for chess.
educate yourself already lmao. or well, live on with your ignorance, i don't care.

[RobertJasiek]

Chess culture differs from go culture. Every go player speaks of go AI.

If you know a current tablet I want, tell us!
- uninterrupted display
- silent
- Windows Pro, x64
- WLAN battery life >10h (>16h preferred)
- 4:3 or smaller display ratio
- matte display
- easily user-replaceable battery at fair price
- reasonable build quality
- at least 8GB / 512 GB without upselling
- purchase under German law possible (i.e. no direct China crap imports)
- Cinebench R15 Single at least 93 (as of i3-530 or 7100U), i.e. usable for everyday tasks in practice