Apple iPhone 12 banned in France after excessive radiation emissions found

[Redaktion]

The Agence nationale des Fréquences (AFNR) has determined that the iPhone 12 emits more than permitted levels of radiation in certain scenarios. With SAR levels over 40% higher than allowed if an iPhone 12 is in a pocket, the AFNR has ordered Apple to stop selling the affected model immediately until it can find a resolution.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-iPhone-12-banned-in-France-after-excessive-radiation-emissions-found.750402.0.html

[NikoB]

As in the case of Dieselgate, it has long been known that smartphone manufacturers deliberately submit for testing to government agencies special versions of smartphones with special firmware that deliberately lowers the SAR level during testing, relative to mass wholesale quantities. Samsung and Apple have been caught doing this many times before. There's nothing to say about Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi - they still can't even get certification for sales in the USA and constantly cheat with the quality of components in the batch and obviously with SAR levels in real retail copies.

So people who often speak while holding the phone to their head are signing their own death sentence.

And what also makes me laugh (including Hollywood films) is the new theme among the stupid young people of the planet - talking while holding the phone perpendicular to the head and the microphone to the lips - they think that in this way they reduce radiation near the head, but everything is exactly the opposite - the antennas (emitting dipoles) are located just at the bottom of the phone, because manufacturers know that this is the farthest point of the phone from the tissues of the body of the head at the time of conversation. And stupid young people and people who believe that this way they reduce radiation near the head, on the contrary, increase SAR by talking in such an idiotic way.

[Swizzy]

And what also makes me laugh (including Hollywood films) is the new theme among the stupid young people of the planet - talking while holding the phone perpendicular to the head and the microphone to the lips - they think that in this way they reduce radiation near the head, but everything is exactly the opposite.

I see this all the time and it drives me up the wall for some reason. Where have you heard the reasoning for this? I've always thought it's about sounding louder to the receiving end or something. I doubt youngsters worry about phones emitting radiation.

[kekO]

I would be those 5G antennas have something to do with this....

[Bizarro_NikoB]

So they did officially issue a no-sell order. Last I heard was they were only contemplating. Well, good for them. Makes me wonder about all the other phones on the market, but I assume this agency is/has tested them as well?

[Anonymous512]

There is no evidence that non-ionizing radiation like the radiation emitted by phones causes cancer. But hey, let's attack competition in the market anyway!

Next Up on France's Ban List: Ripe oranges. They emit too much juice when squeezed. No way that can be healthy.

[NikoB]

There is no evidence that non-ionizing radiation like the radiation emitted by phones causes cancer.

You're lying, there are plenty of studies like this. And the standards are set for a reason. Everyone who writes something like this demands legal criminal prosecution for intentionally misleading consumers.

[Bizarro_NikoB]

There is no evidence that non-ionizing radiation like the radiation emitted by phones causes cancer.

You're lying, there are plenty of studies like this. And the standards are set for a reason. Everyone who writes something like this demands legal criminal prosecution for intentionally misleading consumers.

Stop spreading misinformation. The other poster is correct. Now I'll sit back and wait for wall of text you typically write telling everyone why this government site is wrong and you are somehow always correct.

France and EU countries are notorious for over-regulation anywhere and everywhere they get a chance. Not tha the USA is any better, but the link below from an official govt website completely contradicts the notion that non-ionizing radiation emitted from cell phones causes any cancer and they cite numerous research studies to back up their claim.



"www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet"

[Bizarro_NikoB]

Oh and that link I posted cites 55 peer-reviewed published US/EU research studies and is the official position by the United States Government regarding cell phones and cancer risk factors.

[NikoB]

The government of the United States and other countries continues to allow the sale of cigarettes and Teflon, even though the harm has been scientifically proven.

The US government, like other countries, consists of officials who care about their well-being primarily through bribes from corporations, and not about the health of the nation. In addition, most of them are the most stupid people, because... those who could not get a good job in the private sector due to lack of intelligence go to the government, i.e. lost the competition.

You have to be an idiot to believe that microwave radiation does not cause harm, which was scientifically proven a long time ago. Especially at a considerable distance from base stations, when power reaches peak levels.

The permitted level in the USA is 1.6 W/kg, while Apple regularly violates this value from series to series. The same scandal happened previously with episode 11 and beyond. Everyone knows that Apple phones have always been the most dangerous in terms of radiation.

Those who deny harm or call to ignore it are scoundrels and should be subject to criminal prosecution.

[Gondwa]

There is no evidence that non-ionizing radiation like the radiation emitted by phones causes cancer.

You're lying, there are plenty of studies like this. And the standards are set for a reason. Everyone who writes something like this demands legal criminal prosecution for intentionally misleading consumers.

Hello, I would like to know about IPS. Is a 2-2.5K screen with IPS good enough, or is it necessary to have 4K? You often criticize OLED screens. There is an Acer Extraordinary Go 14-16 laptop that has OLED with 90-120Hz. Do you have an opinion on this?  store. acer .com /en-us/swift-go-16-laptop-sfg16-71-7902

[Bizarro_NikoB]

The government of the United States and other countries continues to allow the sale of cigarettes and Teflon, even though the harm has been scientifically proven.

The US government, like other countries, consists of officials who care about their well-being primarily through bribes from corporations, and not about the health of the nation. In addition, most of them are the most stupid people, because... those who could not get a good job in the private sector due to lack of intelligence go to the government, i.e. lost the competition.

You have to be an idiot to believe that microwave radiation does not cause harm, which was scientifically proven a long time ago. Especially at a considerable distance from base stations, when power reaches peak levels.

The permitted level in the USA is 1.6 W/kg, while Apple regularly violates this value from series to series. The same scandal happened previously with episode 11 and beyond. Everyone knows that Apple phones have always been the most dangerous in terms of radiation.

Those who deny harm or call to ignore it are scoundrels and should be subject to criminal prosecution.

Hate to break it to you, but 55 US and European studies say you are wrong about non-ionizing radiation FROM cell phones cause cancer. And they are linked as the justification for the official US government position. You should give it a read instead posting a wall of nonsense text. Remember science is your friend. Trust the science!!

[NikoB]

There are no studies refuting the harm of microwave radiation, except for sales fakes from pseudo-scientific scammers. You really need to be punished for promoting dangerous radiation.

[Gondwa]

There are no studies refuting the harm of microwave radiation, except for sales fakes from pseudo-scientific scammers. You really need to be punished for promoting dangerous radiation.

Niko can you make guide about IPS-OLED

[Bizarro_NikoB]

There are no studies refuting the harm of microwave radiation, except for sales fakes from pseudo-scientific scammers. You really need to be punished for promoting dangerous radiation.

Just so we're clear, you're saying all of these studies are fake pseudo-science and you somehow are the lone sane voice of reason and logic in the world? Peer-reviewed studies published in professional established publications conducted by hundreds of scientists, doctors, and academics both in the United States and Europe.

They are all wrong? They're all in cohoots with Apple and nasty capitalism and don't forget I should be punished which you clearly mean legally and criminally for not agreeing with your position because that is "dangerous" and I'm spreading "misinformation".

GTFO!

They say it's easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled.  Are you so entrenched in your beliefs, that you can't possibly fathom you might be wrong and the EU like a lot of countries may suffer from overregulation forced upon them by their betters? I'm not saying having limits on EM radiation output on devices is a bad thing, but I don't know if the EM radiation from cell phones causes cancer based on my research.

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