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Apple A17 Bionic makes stellar Geekbench debut with up to 47% performance gains over the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3

Started by Redaktion, August 12, 2023, 23:22:25

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Randy chan

This proves Apple made the right decision to buy up all of TSMC's 3 nm process thus leaving none for the competition. The upcoming A17 bionic and M3 chips with the 3nm process will easily overpower their competition. And with Apple's relentless pursuit of perfection and being number 1 who knows, maybe Apple will shoehorn the M3 chip into a iPhone someday. Extravagance is the name of the game.

BobNut


Neenyah

Yeah, they should give up already and simply stop being Apple's only supplier for 5G modems, then good luck getting online without WiFi.

BobNut

Quote from: Neenyah on August 13, 2023, 05:11:29Yeah, they should give up already and simply stop being Apple's only supplier for 5G modems, then good luck getting online without WiFi.

Didn't Apple buy intels modem business and aren't they working on their own modem?

Jack Donagey

Geekbench is rubbish. When an iPhone 14 was tested under load against S23 Ultra. The iPhone was left a stuttering mess. Typical Apple misinformation for the fan boys to pat themselves on the back for their totally unoriginal choice.

Suhail

Geekbench prefers iOS and Macs over others. That's why it's called as Applebench. It's too biased towards apple hardware. When the Androids got close (even surpass) last generation, they released a new version which made apple to take significant lead again in scores both in PC and phones.
I would say in reality, it could be max 10-20% faster than SD 8 gen 3 in CPU. SD 8 gen 3 could have same or better GPU.

ikjadoon

You all: "Geekbench SUCKS"

Actual CPU designers:

"Geekbench has been and will continue to be an important benchmark that our teams have utilized in the architectural design and implementation of our Snapdragon® platforms."

-- Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.

Spartan

Quote from: Randy chan on August 13, 2023, 03:14:57This proves Apple made the right decision to buy up all of TSMC's 3 nm process thus leaving none for the competition. The upcoming A17 bionic and M3 chips with the 3nm process will easily overpower their competition. And with Apple's relentless pursuit of perfection and being number 1 who knows, maybe Apple will shoehorn the M3 chip into a iPhone someday. Extravagance is the name of the game.

Errr... What *this* proves, is absolutely nothing. I'm not saying that you're wrong about the rest, although I'm far from convinced about the M3 in a phone thing. But you're definitely wrong about *this* proving anything.

*This* is an unverified leak, with pretty huge credibility concerns. First of all the problem stated in the article about the chip having double the compute power of its predecessor, despite having  only one additional core.
Then the fact of it having a bigger percentage gain in single core, rather than multicore. I see four possible explanations for that:

1- A17 has fewer cores than A16. Incredibly unlikely.
2- A17 has worse multicore efficiency compared to A16. Highly unlikely.
3- Some sort of "boost" algorithm has been added, like what happens on desktop. 1 core in use equals really high frequencies, all core loads, it drops a lot. Quite unlikely.
4- Adopted the Android formula of using a super core. Possible, I guess.

Only one of those 4 explanations seems even remotely credible. So Occam's razor says that what's more likely, is this leak bring fake.

Neenyah

Quote from: BobNut on August 13, 2023, 06:15:18
Quote from: Neenyah on August 13, 2023, 05:11:29Yeah, they should give up already and simply stop being Apple's only supplier for 5G modems, then good luck getting online without WiFi.

Didn't Apple buy intels modem business and aren't they working on their own modem?
They did and they do but they are experiencing a lot of issues with it so their iPhone SE 4 is getting delayed for solid two years (at least two) and the Snapdragon X70 5G modem is going to be in the iPhone 16 next year.

Neenyah

Quote from: ikjadoon on August 13, 2023, 08:24:11Actual CPU designers:

"Geekbench has been and will continue to be an important benchmark that our teams have utilized in the architectural design and implementation of our Snapdragon® platforms."

-- Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.

Ah yes, the quote that can be found online at precisely TWO places ( imgur.com/BuyhF1U ).

Swizzy

Quote from: ikjadoon on August 13, 2023, 08:24:11You all: "Geekbench SUCKS"

Actual CPU designers:

"Geekbench has been and will continue to be an important benchmark that our teams have utilized in the architectural design and implementation of our Snapdragon® platforms."

-- Qualcomm Technologies, Inc.

LMAO

ikjadoon

Quote from: Neenyah on August 13, 2023, 10:47:05Ah yes, the quote that can be found online at precisely TWO places ( imgur.com/BuyhF1U ).

https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2023/02/geekbench-6/


Trailzrock

We all know it absolutely makes no difference. If you're an android user there's nothing Apple can do to switch over. It's the OS that matters and a phone is also a statement. If you don't want to be associated with the iPhone, you'll never buy one no matter if it runs on a quantum computer

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