Intel x86-S could bring a major 64-bit only revision to its chip architecture

[Neenyah]

AMD now has excellent Linux support. Just cause he is bashing intel is no reason to bash AMD.

I meant about Adrenalin literally not being available on Linux. Sure there is CoreCtrl (gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl) but if not having official software available on one pretty popular OS (kernel but yeah, you know what I mean) is not a sign of a bad support...

Sure we can argue that Adrenalin is not needed on Linux because Windows users have it available because Windows is proprietary and lock down same as AMD's GPU drivers but still, it's not a good sign when you need to do it all through CLI or GUI open source tools to control voltage curves, memory clocks, power limits and so on.

And while that is actually quite fan to do and tweak it that way I'm pretty confident that majority of users worldwide are not into such tweaking when they can simply drag things left and right on Windows in the official software and, if there is anything that goes wrong, there is always restore defaults option.

Technically, the #1 OS on the planet today is Android

I definitely agree with you and it's what I meant to write initially 👍 But considering that modern Windows does not exist anymore on mobile devices such as phones and tablets and Trollminator NikoB talks specifically about Windows being dead, I chose to mention only PC numbers.

[Neenyah]

Replying from Android is hell though, as you can see it above 😄 I'll repost once again just to keep clarity and fix errors that my Gboard was "fixing" initially.

Or AMD + Linux with AMD's comically bad Linux support?

AMD now has excellent Linux support. Just cause he is bashing intel is no reason to bash AMD.

I meant about Adrenalin literally not being available on Linux. Sure there is CoreCtrl (gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl) but if not having official software available on one pretty popular OS (kernel but yeah, you know what I mean) is not a sign of a bad support...

Sure we can argue that Adrenalin is not needed on Linux because Windows users have it available because Windows is proprietary and locked down same as AMD's GPU drivers but still, it's not a good sign when you need to do it all through CLI or GUI open source tools to control voltage curves, memory clocks, power limits and so on.

And while that is actually quite fun to do and tweak it that way I'm pretty confident that majority of users worldwide are not into such tweaking when they can simply drag things left and right in Windows in the official software and, if there is anything that goes wrong, there is always restore defaults option.

Technically, the #1 OS on the planet today is Android

I definitely agree with you and it's what I meant to write initially 👍 But considering that modern Windows does not exist anymore on mobile devices such as phones and tablets and Trollminator NikoB talks specifically about Windows being dead, I chose to mention only PC numbers.

[A]

Replying from Android is hell though, as you can see it above 😄 I'll repost once again just to keep clarity and fix errors that my Gboard was "fixing" initially.

Even on desktop I always use preview cause quoting is annoying.

I meant about Adrenalin literally not being available on Linux. Sure there is CoreCtrl (gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl) but if not having official software available on one pretty popular OS (kernel but yeah, you know what I mean) is not a sign of a bad support...

Sure we can argue that Adrenalin is not needed on Linux because Windows users have it available because Windows is proprietary and locked down same as AMD's GPU drivers but still, it's not a good sign when you need to do it all through CLI or GUI open source tools to control voltage curves, memory clocks, power limits and so on.

And while that is actually quite fun to do and tweak it that way I'm pretty confident that majority of users worldwide are not into such tweaking when they can simply drag things left and right in Windows in the official software and, if there is anything that goes wrong, there is always restore defaults option.

Not having Adrenalin is hardly saying it is poor linux support. The most important is having the drivers and the capability. In terms of user friendliness of needing to download 3rd party software, being forced to install a new OS is less user friendly than that. As for those who do offer linux computers, I'd say it is the oems responsibility to include those. Some even in windows use their own like MSI Afterburner, ASUS GPU Tweak and etc.

I definitely agree with you and it's what I meant to write initially 👍 But considering that modern Windows does not exist anymore on mobile devices such as phones and tablets and Trollminator NikoB talks specifically about Windows being dead, I chose to mention only PC numbers.

I think he just has a deep hate for x86, it probably killed their dog.

[NikoB]

Uhm, you are aware stock splits are a thing right? When stock prices get too high, companies split their shares so that more people can afford to buy shares. Intel split their stock in 1997, 1999 and 2000. And if I remember correctly, their stock gives dividend

You should be aware that the stock price quoted by me and published everywhere already takes into account splits in retrospect on the charts. As well as the price of Apple shares, for example, which have grown over the same time by more than 1000 times. Here Apple really made shareholders millionaires. Even ordinary people who had $1000 worth of shares in 1997 and were smart enough to keep them for 25 years.

[A]

You should be aware that the stock price quoted by me and published everywhere already takes into account splits in retrospect on the charts. As well as the price of Apple shares, for example, which have grown over the same time by more than 1000 times. Here Apple really made shareholders millionaires. Even ordinary people who had $1000 worth of shares in 1997 and were smart enough to keep them for 25 years.

Your logic makes 0 sense on why you are comparing one and the other. Just cause one stock did better than the other doesn't take away from its value. Keeping Apple stock all the way from 1997 would be a pretty gutsy move considering if not for the monopoly lawsuits aimed at MS, Apple stock would be worth 0 today.

[NikoB]

Of course my logic makes no sense! It only makes sense to have a tight wallet in your pocket, thanks to rising stocks. )))

If only, if only ... In fact, Apple made its shareholders millionaires, and ruined by Intel's loosers.

Intel is bankrupt and its shares have fallen more than 3 times in 25 years in real dollars in 1997 in terms of purchasing power, clearly signals this.

Better argue on Linkus vs. Windows, although even there you get sucks.

[Neenyah]

Not having Adrenalin is hardly saying it is poor linux support. The most important is having the drivers and the capability. In terms of user friendliness of needing to download 3rd party software, being forced to install a new OS is less user friendly than that. As for those who do offer linux computers, I'd say it is the oems responsibility to include those. Some even in windows use their own like MSI Afterburner, ASUS GPU Tweak and etc.

Hey, sorry about being a bit late to reply (too busy); I'm about to say that I can't disagree with anything here, that's a good perspective and you are right about it, especially the part in bold. I still remember "good ol' days" where AMD/Radeon GPU drivers are absolute horror in every single distro and I surely can admit that they improved a lot since then by what and how they offer.

But then again, we too often have something like thin on the Windows side 👉 reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/13lopq2/windows_being_windows/ 👈? I'll quote just the top comment with accurate description of the situation:

Thanks AMD for not maintaining parity between distribution methods.

This isn't a windows problem, they just provide a method for OEMs to push their drivers. AMD does not keep it up to date and so windows updates detects a difference and reverts it.

Is something like that an issue in Linux with AMD's drivers? Recently I have never used Linux + AMD combo on any of my personal machines so can't comment about how that works but I see that you have more knowledge about it so please share a bit of info, I'm curious to hear (well, read). Thanks in advance ✌