That awkward moment when the Core i5-1240P is outperforming most Core i7-1260P laptops currently available

[Redaktion]

Numbers don't lie. We're disappointed that most laptop makers thus far haven't been implementing the Core i7-1260P to its full potential. The situation is bad enough that even the Core i5-1240P is running consistently faster in multi-threaded workloads than many Core i7-1260P laptops at the moment.

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[Adam222222]

Can you review LG Gram 17 2022? This laptop have both 1260p and 1240p so there is a potential to compare two cpus fairly.

[Dorby]

What stands out to me is how Intel XE 96EU iGPU on Lenovo Yoga 9i 14 scores an impressive 40% higher than Dell Inspiron 16 on 3DMark Graphics, despite the latter being a much heavier, thicker laptop and both laptops sharing identical 1260P APUs.

Lenovo seems to be the new top brand of choice for "high-performance ultrabook" (Intel-P / Ryzen-HS) category of laptops. Also, curious to see your 1240/1260P results from Asus ZenBook 14X and HP Spectre 13.5, and how they fare with other brands in this chart.

The P-series is a chip I do not recommend to most average buyers, but its benchmarks have been surprisingly useful in gauging each laptop lineup's cooling capacity improvements from previous generation. Really helps to understand how the "more appealing" U-series models from each of these lineups will compare in performance.

[NikoB]

This note is a typical blow to the fan, because. the whole coolness of Lenovo lies for the most part in greater consumption, i.e. the PL1 level of its solutions, for which you often have to pay with noise and autonomy (if battery consumption is higher).

There are 4 factors to consider here:
Performance, autonomy, noise and weight (and this includes the weight of radiators) produced by each series at a typical load. Now, if a laptop undoubtedly wins in all four factors under the same testing conditions, having a junior processor, then you can only give a standing ovation to such a manufacturer and hang the rest on the board of shame. But otherwise, everything is much more complicated.

I have already emphasized that the L5Pro (and the legion series as a whole, but  regular Legion without "Pro" prefix has become even worse since 2021) is too noisy from year to year in a light load, unlike competitors' solutions due to high temperature thresholds for turning on coolers.

You can set 1240P to 28W (and even factory overclock the SoC even higher in consumption, even with AMD, as Lenovo often does) and compare it with a 15W PL1 solution from another manufacturer - but will this be an honest comparison without taking into account other 3 factors ?

The technical perfection of the model is achieved by outstanding characteristics for all 4 factors at once. Only with this in mind, you can give the company the palm of technological leadership.

Lenovo in 2021 came closest to the reference level with L5Pro (previously HP almost reached this with Omen in 2018, but then slipped down), but this series also has many flaws, the main of which is the increased noise in the office and surfing load, which is clearly shown by reviews from year to year.

Well, as for the availability of laptops on Alder Lake, I have already written a single "sheet of paper" here. Where are the 15.6"+ models with 1255U/1260p-1280p in the business class, with a normal full-fledged keyboard and a quiet cooling system with correctly set cooler thresholds? They are essentially not on the market - "out of stock" for 10(!) months since the announcement of the Alder Lake line. in fact, this is a shame for Intel and manufacturers - the product has simply not been on the market for almost a year.Alder Lake, as always, the latest AMD series has turned into a "paper series", and not really widely available on the market. Earlier, after the announcement of the new Intel series, literally after 2-3 months, the retail was already full of its solutions. Now this is not even in sight. Everyone only announces "new series" of hardware, but there is nothing in the stores in exactly the version that the mass consumer is most waiting for, especially for business and work with the optimal balance of price and performance, and this is exactly the self-sufficient 15.6+ class, and not toys in the 12"-14" class.

[PHVM_BR]

What stands out to me is how Intel XE 96EU iGPU on Lenovo Yoga 9i 14 scores an impressive 40% higher than Dell Inspiron 16 on 3DMark Graphics, despite the latter being a much heavier, thicker laptop and both laptops sharing identical 1260P APUs.

Lenovo seems to be the new top brand of choice for "high-performance ultrabook" (Intel-P / Ryzen-HS) category of laptops. Also, curious to see your 1240/1260P results from Asus ZenBook 14X and HP Spectre 13.5, and how they fare with other brands in this chart.

The P-series is a chip I do not recommend to most average buyers, but its benchmarks have been surprisingly useful in gauging each laptop lineup's cooling capacity improvements from previous generation. Really helps to understand how the "more appealing" U-series models from each of these lineups will compare in performance.

The Inspiron has ddr4 3200MHz memories and all tests show that the Iris Xe on 12th gen CPUs are not well optimized with ddr4.
The performance loss is big compared to the 11th gen/ddr4 and 12th gen/ddr5 versions...

[Dorby]

The Inspiron has ddr4 3200MHz memories and all tests show that the Iris Xe on 12th gen CPUs are not well optimized with ddr4.
The performance loss is big compared to the 11th gen/ddr4 and 12th gen/ddr5 versions...

Thanks, I totally missed that part.

[JimBo]

The problem isn't that oems are neutering the performance, it's that alderlake's design is chasing multi core perf with more cores and high cpu frequencies at the cost of significantly higher power. The P series parts are not designed for todays thin and light laptops at 15W, not that todays laptops are not designed for P series. Apple achieves the perf in 15W with fewer cores, which also means good battery life, no fan, throttling or heat. Every P series laptop review mentioned extremely poor battery life and heat.

[NikoB]

Still much worse for Intel, according to the latest news with TSMC. As it turned out, Intel failed to transition to 5nm even with TSMC and was forced to cancel the reservation at their capacities for the entire 2023... This is a shame. RIP Intel?

[NikoB]

Clarification, sorry, mistakenly wrote about 5nm, although of course it was about "3nm" on TSMC reserved by Intel at the end of 2022 and all 2023. Read here (trendforce.com/presscenter/news/19700101-11330.html).