LG Gram 16 and Gram 17 2022 launched in South Korea with Intel Alder Lake processors, a GeForce RTX 2050, 16:10 screen, and more

[Redaktion]

LG has refreshed the Gram 16 and Gram 17 with the newest Intel Alder Lake processors, a 16:10 screen, LPDDR5 RAM, PCIe Gen 4 storage and an optional Nvidia GeForce RTX 2050 graphics card. They can be pre-ordered in South Korea, starting at KRW 2.29 million (US$1,885) and KRW 2.39 million (US$1,970) for the 16-inch and 17-inch models, respectively

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[NL]

If you go to the Korean LG website, it looks like they're using Alder Lake P processors.

[Kris]

Usually we have glossy or matte displays, and here in the description we see anti-glare, so I wonder now what it is... I bet it's again glossy with some anti-glare coating, so a mirror another time!

[RobertJasiek]

If a manufacturer says "matte", it is matte. However, many manufacturers prefer to confuse us. "Anti-glare" is a typical PR term invented for the sake of creating confusion. Some manufacturers define their proprietary terms in some fine print, but I do not recall whether LG does so. Most uses of "anti-glare" by manufacturers mean what you indicate: glare but with some coating slightly reducing the worst mirroring. In the best such cases, it amounts to semi-matte, but we cannot know until we see it.

[Dorby]

"Anti-Glare" applies to Matte, "Anti-Reflection" applies to Glossy.

BOTH matte and glossy coatings can be reflective or non-reflective. It's just that matte displays are more commonly paired with the anti-glare feature. Anti-reflection is much more expensive and OEMs tend to skimp on putting it on glossy panels, which is why glossy displays are commonly reflective with a few exceptions (i.e. Apple).

[RobertJasiek]

glossy displays are commonly reflective with a few exceptions (i.e. Apple).

What exceptions? Apple's glossy displays are reflective but their coating reduces reflections from 5+% to ca. 2%. They are still mirrors: you see yourself, light through windows, lamps, sky or the sun.

A matte display should at most show some diffuse luster.

[Dorby]

@RobertJasiek:

Apple's coating lowers reflectivity from 9% to 1.5%.

Matte is limited under direct bright light sources due to light blooming effect, and reduces image contrast and sharpness, which is why I prefer Glossy AR. Matte works fine for office work reading text but you cannot use it outdoors or in a professionally lit indoors environment.

[RobertJasiek]

The lowest value I recall for iPads was 1.8%. Has there been a recent improvement to 1.5% or is that a value of some monitor?

You are right that matte differs but not every matte display has a significant light blooming effect, which tends to occur for higher pixel densities. Without the effect, matte is also suitable outdoors or in bright rooms.

[Dorby]

That is true, but high-quality matte is hard to come by, especially on laptops where manufacturers tend to skimp on display add-ons.

Apple's 1.5% reflectivity is from this source. Apple themselves have claimed it as well for the ProDisplay XDR, of which the same AR Glossy coating is used across all their products.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM5fQoI1R5Q

[RobertJasiek]

Nice video, but 2% is the smallest number I see in it.

[Dorby]

Nice video, but 2% is the smallest number I see in it.

Their other videos have measured 1%-1.5% across ipads and macbooks. And I have yet to see a anti-glare windows laptop that looks better than a MacBook's glossy screen in a bright environment. If you are confident, please share your findings.

[RobertJasiek]

Choosing matte or glossy is also a matter of preference. Although some glare displays with coating look pretty good for glare displays, the best viewing angle is always the one mirroring oneself (and light sources). I always prefer matte because it is diffuse enough to never see myself besides the displayed contents.

DisplayMate's measurements of reflectance of iPads with coating has resulted in values 1.8 - 2.5% (I have not read any most recent tests yet though), considers two kinds of such values and is done by a physician. When you refer to the other person's values 1 - 1.5%, that must mean that the different value ranges are caused by different measurement tools or qualities of tools and measurements.

[mgistr]

Rather than adding a dedicated GPU that would probably require more cooling and distort the thermals/quite operation, LG would have been better served by fixing the one weakness the 2021 model had... the speakers.