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Should Razer release an Intel 11th gen Tiger Lake-H version of the Blade 14?

Started by Redaktion, June 24, 2021, 18:45:03

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Redaktion

Had Razer played it safe by sticking with Intel instead of jumping to AMD, the Blade 14 would have more than likely supported PCIe 4.0, Thunderbolt 4, and the Razer Core series X series of eGPU docking stations.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Should-Razer-release-an-Intel-11th-gen-Tiger-Lake-H-version-of-the-Blade-14.547090.0.html

desh

Actually, their decision to go with AMD probably has more to do with thermal performance and battery life, not a marketing thing.
Fitting such high-power components in such a small form factor means that the thermal capability of the chassis is limited, and AMD's chips have been much more power-efficient in that sense (when considering both thermals and power-consumption).

Note that an external chassis isn't really needed on this laptops, as it's powerful enough to drive any AAA game at reasonable FPS (even in 4K in some cases).

Fitting an 11th-gen intel chip here would've probably meant lower performance due to thermal throttling, so they made the (probably smart) choice and dropped Intel along with its TB4.


GT


RB15 User

One simple answer - supply chain. They put an AMD processor in a niche and new product to gauge market interest (and competition with their own models) and see how AMD copes with supply while Intel continues to provide most of their laptop CPUs (because they make their own chips and don't have these issues, unlike AMD that is reliant on TSMC like many other companies). If the demand for the 14" is high and AMD cannot make enough chips, they'll launch an Intel version.

Sfasciacarene

Quote from: GT on June 25, 2021, 01:04:33
No.
What they should do instead is release a version with more RAM, 32GB.

Yes, I completely agree with you, 16GB is "fine" now, but a 2000 Euro (and more) laptop should last more than 1 or 2 years. Hence, a 32GB option will be welcomed.

In my opinion this laptop should be perfect with a 32GB of ram and a 16:10 display. With a 3070/3080 dGPU a thunderbolt eGPU is just usless, and there are a lot of valid usb-c docking stations

ZODD

Quote from: desh on June 24, 2021, 19:47:57
Actually, their decision to go with AMD probably has more to do with thermal performance and battery life, not a marketing thing.
Fitting such high-power components in such a small form factor means that the thermal capability of the chassis is limited, and AMD's chips have been much more power-efficient in that sense (when considering both thermals and power-consumption).

Note that an external chassis isn't really needed on this laptops, as it's powerful enough to drive any AAA game at reasonable FPS (even in 4K in some cases).

Fitting an 11th-gen intel chip here would've probably meant lower performance due to thermal throttling, so they made the (probably smart) choice and dropped Intel along with its TB4.

Huh!  What are you talking about the HX CPU's run just as hot if not hotter in most laptops I have seen tested in them , the vapor chamber and the RAZER engineering team did a great job keeping everything under control and could of easily used Intel 11th gen.
This is just made up things you think are true but have nothing to back that up with.

darth

Quote from: ZODD on June 25, 2021, 14:53:41
Huh!  What are you talking about the HX CPU's run just as hot if not hotter in most laptops I have seen tested in them , the vapor chamber and the RAZER engineering team did a great job keeping everything under control and could of easily used Intel 11th gen.
This is just made up things you think are true but have nothing to back that up with.

AMD cpus run hotter because they are smaller dies compared to intel's. The lower surface area means less heat transferred to the heatsink and thus they run hotter, even at the same power output.
Having said that, the laptop's ability to handle heat is related to the power output of it's components, not working temperature.
desh's original comment was right in the sense that, if you need to keep your cpu power output low, AMD is the better option.
(If you watch performance comparisons between both companies' latest CPUs you'll see that, when power restrained, AMD CPUs tend to perform better than Intel's. If higher power is allowed, then Intel claws back performance.)

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