Lenovo IdeaPad 5 featuring AMD's Ryzen 5 4500U APU goes on sale starting at US$649.99; cheaper Ryzen 3 4300U variant available in some countries

[william blake]

Users who use Thunderbolt 3 peripherals like eGPU have no choice right now.
We don't have any AMD laptops with TB3.

But in terms of price/performance value new AMD chips are really amazing.

1.thunderbolt intel laptops is a minority, and some amd will have it too.
2.egpu users is a minority(of the minority above)
3. no, not price/performance. performance. and price. so price/performance squared.

[systemBuilder]

Having that second thread is equivalent to 30% of a single processor.  So an eight core processor has just eight cores but an 8-core multi-threaded processor has the equivalent of 10.4 cores.  In other words a multi-threaded processor has his much extra CPU as an entire i7 mobile CPU from just three years ago!

[chxei]

Having that second thread is equivalent to 30% of a single processor.  So an eight core processor has just eight cores but an 8-core multi-threaded processor has the equivalent of 10.4 cores.  In other words a multi-threaded processor has his much extra CPU as an entire i7 mobile CPU from just three years ago!

Maybe thats what benchmarks say but in real world applications its not that simple

[chxei]

So they removed option in UK to opt out windows, so we have to pay 90$ more. cool 

[_MT_]

Looks like Lenovo got smart and now they force you to buy with win10 home.
Yesterday I checked for a friend and it was possible, -90£ free dos

German configurator still has that option. It's interesting. The hardware options are pretty good value all around, but Windows are relatively expensive compared to what they commonly offer on ThinkPads. The SSDs are also curious with three 512 GB options. 2242 TLC, 2280 QLC and 2280 TLC, with price increasing in that order. What's the benefit of the more expensive 2280 TLC compared to the 2242 TLC one? Configurator doesn't say (at least I didn't see anything distinguishing them aside from size).

Interestingly, they claim the display is 1920x1200 in several places. I doubt it, it wouldn't be the first time they got that wrong.

[william blake]

So they removed option in UK to opt out windows, so we have to pay 90$ more. cool 

brexit. pretty fair.

[_MT_]

You have here 4800u review of Lenovo next.lab501.ro/notebook/english-lenovo-ideapad-s540-13are-vs-13iml-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-vs-intel-core-i7-10710u

Nice review. It must be the first normal laptop from Lenovo I have seen in a long time with a 8:5 screen. Even the pictures look like it actually is 8:5 and not just a marketing cock up. It just looks much better than 16:9. Problem is that I can't see it anywhere. German website doesn't have any 13" version and UK has it, but with previous generation processors. I guess they're coming? Unfortunately, the 14 and 15 still seem to be 16:9.

It really makes me look forward to a proper ThinkPad with Renoir. It's going to be really funny if the humble T15 spanks X1 Extreme. If only they gave it proper battery worthy of a 15" chassis. It would be the first time I wouldn't mind P5xs having a 15 W processor. Except I imagine they're probably going to stick with Intel on the P version.

[william blake]

according to psref
all renoir ideapads-igpu only. lntel ideapads-igpu, both hd and and iris, mx330, mx350.
same old story.

[Valantar]

according to psref
all renoir ideapads-igpu only. lntel ideapads-igpu, both hd and and iris, mx330, mx350.
same old story.

Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?

[Valantar]

This is considered as a budget lineup. What do you expect?

lineup? no. 8gb is the top option for the lower model in the lineup, where 4gb is soldered already. 4+4, you know.
and if 8gb is soldered, we have an option for 8+8.
seems pretty logical for me.

You can combine any size DIMM with any size soldered RAM, the only drawback is that only 2x the soldered capacity will run in dual channel. Still, stick a 16GB SODIMM in there and you have 20GB. It's not ideal, but you certainly aren't limited to 8GB.

[william blake]

You can combine any size DIMM with any size soldered RAM

we are talking about what you can buy from them.
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[william blake]

Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?

you guys all the same. never learn, never listen, always ignoring all the data, opinions, logic, never brings any data to the table( yes, where is your links to some testing). all integrated graphics believers are not users, at list not expirienced users, but just holywar warriors.
i guess ill skip this religious point this time.

[_MT_]

I checked the German configurator again and they're still playing with it. Processors got more expensive, Windows got cheaper, 4 GB RAM appeared and 16 GB disappeared from one of the two configurable models, SSDs got more expensive, I think battery got bigger and who knows what else.

[Valantar]

Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?

you guys all the same. never learn, never listen, always ignoring all the data, opinions, logic, never brings any data to the table( yes, where is your links to some testing). all integrated graphics believers are not users, at list not expirienced users, but just holywar warriors.
i guess ill skip this religious point this time.

I've provided you with plentiful documentation for this previously, if you either don't remember or choose to ignore it, that's on you. Sadly there are no proper published reviews of U-series laptops yet (likely because they are only just trickling into the market), but there is enough leaked data from reputable sources to make the numbers I quoted relatively safe. Of course the TDP of the system will play into this, and a 25W configuration is likely to game much better than a 15W one.

For the nth time, here's the most concise leaked benchmark data for now, and ironically it's from the benchmark comparison engine here at NotebookCheck with a (likely 25W) Lenovo Yoga Slim 7: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/renoir-r7-4800u-results-leaked-from-lenovo-yoga-slim-7-14are-review.2578105/


As for the rest of your ad hominem babble: please take that garbage elsewhere. It just makes you look silly - where are your arguments, your data? All you are doing is trying to insult people as a way of derailing the debate, and all you are achieving is making yourself look terrible. I would recommend taking a step or two back and taking a look at what you are actually saying to people.

[Pdml]

Can anyone tell me which option is for the 100% sRGB screen?  Can't find any info on this.  The most expensive one with marginally reduced bezel width?