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Intel to cancel desktop GPUs if Arc Battlemage fails as terrible AIB support and RTX 4070-like performance leak

Started by Redaktion, October 25, 2024, 15:54:14

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Redaktion

It seems the fate of Intel's discrete GPU division is riding on the success of the Intel Arc Battlemage cards. According to a leak from Moore's Law Is Dead that also reveals the specs and performance of the BMG G31 and G21 dies, Intel is "expected to cancel" the in-development Celestial dGPU if Battlemage fails.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-to-cancel-desktop-GPUs-if-Arc-Battlemage-fails-as-terrible-AIB-support-and-RTX-4070-like-performance-leak.907774.0.html

Jonas Bee

They really need to hurry up and release them already - Arc Alchemy driver support was one thing, but releasing them so late compared to RTX 3000 and RX 6000 cards really hurt as they could not rival RTX 4000/RX 7000 models.

It sounds like Intel's worst enemy is Intel, the shake-up needs to happen and fast.

JUAN_pcbox

Intel's new processors are a disaster, it is being talked about in all the specialized forums.
The 5700x3d has better performance and is about twice as energy efficient as the 245k. Why would anyone buy this newly released CPU that costs $100 more than the 5700x3d ????
Other advantages of AMD are that you can upgrade it for 7 years while with Intel you can't.
Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.
And with the arrival of the new iGPUs in ultrabooks, it has already been shown that Intel is far behind and AMD HALO and Kraken Point laptops have not yet come out
Zen 10% vs Core -10% if you see the comments on Youtube THEY WILL SHOW YOU the reality, I don't think thousands of people are wrong



GeorgeS

Team Blue's development of GPU's that MIGHT be used in Gaming is mostly secondary to their desperate need to have something to compete with Nvidia and even AMD in the "AI" space.

So having 'game drivers' for desktop cards (or even remotely 'game ready') is not exactly a priority for them.

Having functional drivers for open source AI software stacks is.

Sorry.

cfb

MLID already claimed that the alchemist weren't coming out and that intel was going to cancel the entire gpu division, and as we can see with battlemage and celestial iGPU's ALREADY BEING IN PRODUCTS that it never happened, there was no "inside info", and that he just made the entire thing up.

Not a valid source of...anything. Nobody inside is talking to that guy.


Jabea


bobo

4070 performance is not inspiring people (performance may same like 5060 too?),have to see pricing first , if 4060 price but 4070 performance then should be okay

dfgrt6523

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.

You are not correct. In fact, Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs. I don't no why, but neither nVidia, nor AMD support it. Is it critically important feature to enable graphics hardware acceleration inside virtual machines. Without it, you can't run VMs comfortably in your desktop system, so can't have good Qubes OS experience either

Latz

Quote from: dfgrt6523 on October 27, 2024, 17:51:05
Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on October 25, 2024, 18:07:47Regarding dGPUs, there is still nothing from Intel that surpasses AMD and Nvidia.

You are not correct. In fact, Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs. I don't no why, but neither nVidia, nor AMD support it. Is it critically important feature to enable graphics hardware acceleration inside virtual machines. Without it, you can't run VMs comfortably in your desktop system, so can't have good Qubes OS experience either

Did you actually read what you said?
Read through it again.

While I really, really want more competition in the space Intel would still need a few generations of maturing (and they really need it too) to even be considered an actual viable competitor by the average consumer cause the average consumer is not really a tech person.

"Intel GPU is set to be the best consumer GPU money can buy. The reason is SR-IOV support which is expected in the Battlemage GPUs"

The average consumer not only wouldn't care about this at all, if the saw SR-IOV on the box or being mentioned anywhere, they both wouldn't know what it is and care even less.

I would be able to use it, the average consumer doesn't even perceive a VM as a thing let a lone need, or want to, run one at home.

It's an utter irrelevance to the general consumer success of the platform.



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