Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite Analysis - More efficient than AMD & Intel, but Apple stays ahead

[NikoB]

No matter how much false marketing tries, prices that are several times higher than real demand will put everything in its place.

I have already written many times, without having its own ecosystem (like Apple) other company trying to get into the x86 market (by the way, it is interesting why Intel does not attack everyone who tries to apply x86 processing, as it did before - apparently it does not consider Apple, and especially Qualcomm, as competitors, and AMD is their eternal antitrust gasket, which they will never let go bankrupt), there is only one chance - full compatibility, plus performance NOT lower than that of Intel/AMD processors, with the same level of consumption and no more. And low prices. Which in reality no other option has. Therefore, their chances of gaining a foothold in the mass x86 market are negligible.

[NikoB]

Winning a decent share in a market niche, in the first few years, when there is a powerful player with an overwhelming market share, is always a deliberate loss-making operation during these years, i.e. with maximum benefit for buyers. It is obvious that neither the management/beneficiaries of Qualcomm, nor the laptop manufacturers, whom they must sponsor for this enterprise, are NOT ready for such sacrifices, which means everything is in vain a priori.

[Consumer_Not]

The only real chance for a X Elite laptop to shine will be with a Linux OS.

Then all applications are compiled natively, as with all architectures in Linux, with no garbage translation layers to slow it down/increase the consumption.

Then it can be a real workhorse.

[NikoB]

Then it can be a real workhorse.

With a mass market share of 2% of strength. This also doesn't make sense. This is how a market share, where everything has already been divided, is not won.

We need to offer the average buyer something better than Windows+x86, for the same or less money. No one on the planet today is capable of this, otherwise Intel + AMD would have long ago lost the entire desktop and laptop market. AMD is at least clearly withdrawing from the x86 laptop and desktop market, because it did not even try in its best years since 2017 to sharply increase its market share by expanding production at TSMC. Although at that time this was obviously an extremely unprofitable strategy given the presence of Intel's cache. As a result, it waited until Intel itself was forced to bow to TSMC and now they are actually on equal terms in terms of technical process capabilities, i.e. AMD's chances will now rapidly melt like snow in June...

[ssshjp]

Very good. Qualcomm not allowing reading SoC package power makes efficiency test a lot harder but this is still the most (and almost only) useful review so far.

For CPU perf/efficiency benchmark, Zen 4 can get 70-80% of Avalanche at 20w, which is decent. But in actual light daily usage, there is still a huge power difference between the ARM and efficient x86 processors, as expected. That's the reason why X1E/X1P should exist.

[gogoarm]

After Intel/AMD marketing war dust settled

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1XJAOf_W5w

really good efficiency in REAL-WORLD dev workflow, obliterates Meteor Lake FOR WORK.
X Plus better efficiency than M3 and overall a more interesting chip probably, unless you are buying laptop to run benchmarks 24/7.

one more generation and it will be on point. By that time all software should be available as ARM native too, apple silicon too didn't have all software available at launch

[Andrew Walsh]

You are missing a key benchmark.
Copilot+ is marketing itself as an edge AI system so where are the most relevant tests of all about AI benchmarks, such as UL Procyon??
The only reason I would buy this PC is for this reason, yet you barely mention it? Poor form.

[Kin Yalbets]

All I can say is my CoPilot+ PC is the first Windows laptop I've had in the past 10 years that is pleasure to use.  Light, fast, quiet, cool.

[drdfbdfb]

All I can say is my CoPilot+ PC is the first Windows laptop I've had in the past 10 years that is pleasure to use.  Light, fast, quiet, cool.

Why even post praises without mentioning the exact model. They all are different.