Efficient Intel Lunar Lake multi-core performance rumored to leave Meteor Lake in dust with 50% gain at comparable TDP

[Redaktion]

Intel Lunar Lake CPUs are expected to drop sometime in Q4 of this year packing the next iteration of the tile-based design first introduced with Meteor Lake chips. Per the latest Lunar Lake performance leak, the LNL processors could perform a whopping 50% better in multi-threaded workloads vs the MTL-U chips at 17 W base power.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Efficient-Intel-Lunar-Lake-multi-core-performance-rumored-to-leave-Meteor-Lake-in-dust-with-50-gain-at-comparable-TDP.811949.0.html

[NikoB]

There's no point in spreading rumors. When the disgraced Intel with the slow MeteorLake (which is 1.5 times worse in performance in real laptops than RaptorLake despite the new "7nm" technical process) together with laptop manufacturers introduces new models and they are really evaluated in tests, then we will see.

In the meantime, AMD is the king. Intel could not move it from its pedestal even with MeteorLake, having completely disgraced itself after cheats with power supply in AlderLake/RaptorLake - all the speed of which is obtained only when consuming 70-80% more than Zen4 and at the same time they still cannot reach it even at monstrous 170W!

Intel has flogged itself! Because a further increase in consumption is impossible, and the new chips for some reason (did they knock from the White House at the request of the "greens"?) even at 100W+ turned out to be extremely slow even by the standards of RaptorLake cores. The first damn thing is lumpy... =)

In general, such rumors only reduce sales of previous laptop models by several times. After all, if there is such a breakthrough in energy efficiency, then what kind of idiot would buy laptops on MeteorLake now?

I warned earlier that 2024 will be boring in this regard (AMD is king, Intel is swallowing dust behind), because The first LunarLake won't appear until mid-2025...

[NikoB]

By the way, based on sales on large marketplaces, it is clearly visible that even ordinary people have already realized that Intel are losers, because in general, identical models from Intel are in warehouses, and they buy the same ones from AMD. Especially mass models. In addition, Intel, with lower performance, often also has a higher price and they are always noisier and have less battery life in real conditions, according to customer reviews...

Only the artificial shortage of laptops on the latest AMD chips, arranged by AMD itself for the sake of increasing profits, forces some buyers to take Intel, gritting their teeth, in the absence of an alternative. And when Intel controls 75% of the x86 laptop market, nothing surprising. The choice of AMD models with current hardware is simply 3 times lower, at least. But AMD doesn't want to increase its market share - for this it needs to dump, and it doesn't have the money for such a war with Intel, which, thanks to its monopoly position and large profits, can simply easily bankrupt AMD in such a dumping war in order to increase its market share significantly.

[Hotz]

... with the slow MeteorLake (which is 1.5 times worse in performance in real laptops than RaptorLake...

By the way, based on sales on large marketplaces, it is clearly visible that even ordinary people have already realized that Intel are losers, because in general, identical models from Intel are in warehouses, and they buy the same ones from AMD.

Only the artificial shortage of laptops on the latest AMD chips, arranged by AMD itself for the sake of increasing profits, forces some buyers to take Intel, gritting their teeth, in the absence of an alternative.

ad 1) Don't exaggerate. It's only slightly slower. Also the main focus for Meteor Lake was the iGPU upgrade and not the CPU, which most people seem to forget

ad 2) You maybe right...

ad 3) Yes, true. But what can you do if AMD artificially holds back. In the end we must take what's in the shops, no matter if it's worse or not.


To be honest, I think both companies are a§§holes. Both in their own ways. Both do things that even armchair scientists wouldn't find reasonable. And both delay new releases as long as possible, to make maximum profit, and not to give the common folk (us) something reasonable and good. And when they eventually give it to us in high volume, it's already outdated (on purpose).

[NikoB]

Yes, true. But what can you do if AMD artificially holds back. In the end we must take what's in the shops, no matter if it's worse or not.

Or you can not take it and drag it out to the last minute on older models. The longer you wait, the greater the changes in progress by the time of purchase, although on some points there is pure regression...

To be honest, I think both companies are a§§holes. Both in their own ways. Both do things that even armchair scientists wouldn't find reasonable. And both delay new releases as long as possible, to make maximum profit, and not to give the common folk (us) something reasonable and good. And when they eventually give it to us in high volume, it's already outdated (on purpose).

But this is capitalism, in its greed for profit, no matter what.

What did Thomas Dunning write almost 200 years ago?:
"Capital is said ... to fly turbulence and strife, and to be timid, which is very true; but this is very incompletely stating the question. Capital eschews no profit, or very small profit, just as Nature was formerly said to abhor a vacuum . With adequate profit, capital is very bold. A certain 10 per cent. will ensure its employment anywhere; 20 per cent. certain will produce eagerness; 50 per cent., positive audacity; 100 per cent. will make it ready to trample on all human laws; 300 per cent., and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hung. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is stated here."

Is there no slave trade and serfdom now? We are all watching it live all over the world, especially vividly in states with military conscription... And the greed of business representatives has always, if the business is not stopped in time, always went beyond human concepts of decency and collective benefits for everyone.

It is the basic dishonesty (immorality, if you will) of the leadership of most businesses, as well as their representatives in power and their influence on ordinary people, that leads to what we are seeing in civilization right now.

And who is the one who should stop them (the business) in time, in their vile, selfish impulses? Their name?

[Hotz]

Yes, agreed. About your final questions: actually I came to the conclusion that only God can help. It's not possible by human means to fix this §hit anymore. I hope the powers of the universe soon put an end to this abysmal "game" called "life on earth"...

[@ julia_top]

I will have your program terminated.

[JOE]

I will have your program terminated.

What is bro yapping about?

[NikoB]

I came to the conclusion that only God can help. It's not possible by human means to fix this §hit anymore. I hope the powers of the universe soon put an end to this abysmal "game" called "life on earth"...

I do not believe in god. This abstraction was invented either by the weak in the past to explain their powerlessness before the forces of nature or other stronger and more dexterous competitors, or it came up with the powerful ones, so that it was easy to explain to the weak and wretched, why they are always below and why it is so correct. And then the church appeared on behalf of this invented "god", as an instrument of control on a stupid part of the population by the powerful and as an effective feeder and the opportunity to rule over the fools for its priests. And as soon as the number of strong and smart falls in society, the church again rises from the ashes, standing on the guard of the status of powerful strata.

Only a smart force that surpasses them can stop the presumptuous villains. Other people. If there are too few such people (as now), evil triumphs. As now on the entire planet. In principle, in human history, good and smart people never completely won, they very rarely managed to expand the direction of human civilization for the better by historical standards. At least temporarily.

An eternal struggle, although it is probably not eternal. Someday this will come to an end for a number of reasons...

[RobertJasiek]

I do not believe in god.

You have explained your reasons but I am curious about your opinion on why the universe exists, why we are able to perceive some of its astonishing complexity and what, if any, might be the purpose of our existence.