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Concept RTX 4070 board says goodbye to power cables as ASUS shows off a new proprietary solution

Started by Redaktion, May 29, 2023, 14:08:56

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Redaktion

ASUS is reportedly preparing a new line of RTX 40 GPUs without any traditional power connectors. The GPUs will instead rely on a proprietary interface that slots in and draws all power from the motherboard.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Concept-RTX-4070-board-says-goodbye-to-power-cables-as-ASUS-shows-off-a-new-proprietary-solution.721599.0.html

eggnogg8086

As long as the connector isn't longer than an ITX board I think it's a good idea, my only concern is the tolerances for the case I/O bracket, I've seen cards not sit parallel with the board

AdamPot


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The problem is not entirely the adapters, the problem continues to be exaggerating power requirements. Sure we can run 26" Wheels on a car and 1200hp but why? If you did, you would not be surprised when you blow through a conrod or bend the wheels on a curb. Its no different with Nvidia releasing this generation of cards for the cosumer gaming market. Nobody would even bother saying the same about an enterprise GPU or 26" on a tractor.
Like another user stated, some motherboard bend or aren't supported correctly with the standoff. Its moving the problem to the motherboard, then in turn also blaming the customer when the motherboard burns and takes everything with it

Bennyg1

Who on earth would want to lock themselves into a proprietary GPU-mobo combination just to relocate the 8pins to the back of the mobo

...Is what I would have said, but then I remembered that some people will pay exorbitantly for case pr0n


S.Yu

Quote from: [email protected] on May 29, 2023, 21:26:49The problem is not entirely the adapters, the problem continues to be exaggerating power requirements. Sure we can run 26" Wheels on a car and 1200hp but why? If you did, you would not be surprised when you blow through a conrod or bend the wheels on a curb. Its no different with Nvidia releasing this generation of cards for the cosumer gaming market. Nobody would even bother saying the same about an enterprise GPU or 26" on a tractor.
Like another user stated, some motherboard bend or aren't supported correctly with the standoff. Its moving the problem to the motherboard, then in turn also blaming the customer when the motherboard burns and takes everything with it
Yup, they shouldn't have even integrated it onto the MB. They should've made an individual board that essentially functions as a fuse.

Bp968

Great idea, destroyed by it being proprietary.  If ASUS really wanted this to be the future they would have submitted it to a standards organization or released its specs and designs for free after working to get a few other companies onboard with the idea.

Personally id like to see more cableless designs and more designs moving the cables and connectors to the backside of the motherboard.

I think there is a lot of room for improvement in current case and MB design(s).  The ATX standard worked great when it was released but now most modern PCs have the equivalent of two systems inside each case. You have a MB with a CPU, ram, SSD(s) and cooling. And then you have a GPU with its own "MB", ram, and cooling, and likely its own SSD at some point in the future.

I think a future case design standard would focus on the fact that the GPU is less of an "add on card" or device and more a fundamental aspect of the base system like the CPU or RAM. 

So how long before we see a things reverse from a GPU plugging into a MB and CPU to a CPU being mounted onto the GPU?

Man_Daddio

I have no issues with new old ideas. But this could have worked years ago when GPUs didn't suck more than 200watts. More power running through the mb doesn't sound healthy for a high end GPU or cheap motherboard.

We have had GPUs get power through the socket but low profile GPUs as most know.

I am open to the idea if it can be done safely and efficiently. Release this in high end boards first, would be obvious. Let enthusiasts mess around with it.

And this is all playing off the over exaggeration of 12v cable connectors melting. When, we still don't know what caused that to happen for sure. Because, people are not usually honest when they want refunds or replacements or have purchase regrets.
I have a 4090 and run my GPU many many hours each day. There has never been smoke, high heat through the cable or any sign of it melting or burning.

The cables melting were caused by something those users are not telling or bending the cable. I am open to defective cables from manufacturer but that is also not "proven". That would not be Nvidia's fault.
 

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