Regarding your last response to me. You are 100% wrong. As to availability, the Toshiba Tecra W50-A and the Fujitsu Celsius H730 are both still available on the used market. As to still being relevant, that depends on the individual's needs who may be interested in purchasing them. For my needs they are certainly relevant. It is wrong and incredibly arrogant of you to arbitrarily decide for and dictate to others that just because a laptop is 7 to 9 years old that it is outdated and irrelevant. Let the purchaser decide that, because it depends on their needs. Both those laptops meet my needs perfectly well - surfing the web, watching Netflix / YouTube videos, using MS Office, email etc - thus, they are very relevant to me and also quite possibly to others like me who have similar needs. I do not experience any lacklustre performance from them for my needs. My Toshiba Tecra W50-A performs incredibly well and I am very happy with it. Your problem is that you just want to promote the newest, latest technology. But you forget that not everyone can afford, has the money or even wants to spend that kind of money on the latest technology. My way, I still get to own a superior, dependable, reliable, well built laptop in incredibly good used condition but at a more affordable price because of it's depreciated value, which was $400 Cdn including the port replicator. My way, I am getting much better value for my money than buying the latest technology at a ridiculously expensive price. Like I have suggested before, you really need to start a new category titled Top 10 Overlooked Older Model, Business Class / Mobile Workstation Laptops.