Lenovo ThinkPad X13s review: Qualcomm still has a lot of work to do

[Redaktion]

As the first manufacturer, Lenovo has introduced a laptop with the current Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 to the market. While this laptop processor represents significant progress compared to its predecessors, in order to catch up with Intel, AMD, and Apple, Qualcomm still has to make a lot of improvements.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X13s-review-Qualcomm-still-has-a-lot-of-work-to-do.665022.0.html

[mallen]

Wait. Are these emulated benchmarks. I know?the emulation is important,but its unfair to widely pan a system as being so slow , while not clearly stating tiny are emulated not native arm.

[Val]

This is indeed emulated, just checked that there's no ARM version of Cinebench for Windows, but there's for Macs.

[bspam]

When Apple did the switch they compared Rosetta-emulated with non emulated and they still get destroyed. Not an excuse. Microsoft sucks to support ARM, that's all.

[Bareback]

Brother...... Are you for real??
You're running an x86 benchmark on an ARMv8 machine

[davidm]

Appreciate you using HTML instead of graphics for the charts, but the text is hard to read with some combinations.

Also, time to switch to a cross platform benchmark, then you could take advantage of the excellent support for ARM in Linux-land.

[Bobobson11]

Please try harder, at least show some comparable benchmarks, you have set the arm version up to fail using an x86-64 program, do some research and find benchmarking tools that supports all architectures to run a fair test.

Lazy journalism!!

[kek]

Wait. Are these emulated benchmarks. I know?the emulation is important,but its unfair to widely pan a system as being so slow , while not clearly stating tiny are emulated not native arm.

Please try harder, at least show some comparable benchmarks, you have set the arm version up to fail using an x86-64 program, do some research and find benchmarking tools that supports all architectures to run a fair test.

Lazy journalism!!

It's not lazy journalism. What do you think most people will end up running on Windows for ARM? Yes, x86 programs.
So emulation is a key factor here and it still sucks, so they are actually showing true numbers here.
Even Apple knew they couldnt take off with having Rosetta in the first place. And so just you know, UWP programs for ARM are mostly dead since Windows Phone/Mobile went away a few years ago, so it will take a while until they come back again.

[riklaunim]

It's not lazy journalism. What do you think most people will end up running on Windows for ARM? Yes, x86 programs.

They could have tested bit more ;) World of Warcraft has a native WoA client. From synthetic benchmarks GFXBench and Geekbench are native as well. Skyrim could be used to test emulated as well (32-bit original version and 64-bit re-release) as well as you can run the x86_64 WoW executable as well. Still X13s will be in same price range as Lenovo 6800U/HS ultraportables without the ARM problem and way better performance (especially iGPU) not to mention M1 Macbook Airs going cheaper nowadays than that thing.

[vibe]

... at this point you are just benchmarking the x86->AArch64 and playing telephone while trying to compare it to native x86 benchmarks. That's like benchmarking a VM against natively ran code.

Try some actual aarch64 software next time, this data is practically useless.

[Spuwho]

Don't waste your money. Snapdragon and Windows is a dead end. Qualcomm wants to apply a cell phone style walled garden to consumer laptops. Not worth it, look elsewhere.