AMD Ryzen 9 4900H no longer lags behind Ryzen 7 4800HS as it bashes out a better Time Spy result in Asus TUF Gaming A15 than in Dell G5 15 Special Edition

[Redaktion]

The AMD Ryzen 9 4900H in combination with an Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 has paid a visit to 3DMark's Time Spy benchmark as part of an Asus TUF Gaming A15 FA506IV laptop. The result recorded was considerably better than the CPU Score produced by the Ryzen 9 4900H in a Dell G5 15 Special Edition that was tested last month.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-4900H-no-longer-lags-behind-Ryzen-7-4800HS-as-it-bashes-out-a-better-Time-Spy-result-in-Asus-TUF-Gaming-A15-than-in-Dell-G5-15-Special-Edition.467599.0.html

[RicoVIking9000]

Do you have the G5 SE in possession now / can we expect a review in the future?

[riklaunim]

Curious what Mechrevo/Tongfang Code 01 will be able to pull out of 4800H at higher cTDP they come with.

[deksman2]

That just means that Dell messed up the cooling for the 4900H (which would be preventing it from reaching and maintaining optimal clocks), or didn't optimize power usage in the system, or it could have easily messed up thermal compound application (which OEM's have a tendency to mess up in the first place).

The RX 5600M is actually a RTX 2060 competitor, and in most situations sits BETWEEN 2060 and 2070 Max-Q.

If previous results weren't satisfying, then that means the cooling wasn't properly done, or Dell simply didn't take into account they need to modify the system to accommodate a more powerful APU like 4900H.

[Calipha]

The RX 5600M is actually a RTX 2060 competitor, and in most situations sits BETWEEN 2060 and 2070 Max-Q.

Firstly, no it doesn't — the 5600M falls behind the 90W 2060 Refresh and even with Smart Shift still gets beaten by the 115W 2060 Refresh.

Secondly, you do realize the 2070 Max-Q is only 7% ahead of the 90W 2060 on average, right? Sitting between them both isn't impressive at all, especially when they've so far mainly been compared to the pre-refreshed models.

[rmt.putty]

There is little evidence that 5600M posts dismal performance figures with either 4800H or 4900H. All rumours are test rigs popped up.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2060-Mobile-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Max-Q-vs-Radeon-RX-5600M_9581_9631_10054.247598.0.html

A detailed 5600M GPU (esp with R7 & R9 top-end combo) review will shed more light on the subject.

[Archuk]

Time spy is not a pure CPU benchmark. Of course GPU comes in play. What is the point of this article?

[Havefun]

Asus add 4th pipe for cooling in this laptop + Asus can push more air (3 ways)

we need some serious benchmark for 5600m (same laptop, only GPU changed)

[deksman2]

The RX 5600M is actually a RTX 2060 competitor, and in most situations sits BETWEEN 2060 and 2070 Max-Q.

Firstly, no it doesn't — the 5600M falls behind the 90W 2060 Refresh and even with Smart Shift still gets beaten by the 115W 2060 Refresh.

Secondly, you do realize the 2070 Max-Q is only 7% ahead of the 90W 2060 on average, right? Sitting between them both isn't impressive at all, especially when they've so far mainly been compared to the pre-refreshed models.

Actually, there is no reason to think 5600M is weaker than 2060 refresh (90W).
Why?
Because Dell is not well known for producing quality cooling or having a good thermal paste application.
Also, 5600M has identical specs to the desktop version except slightly reduced core and VRAM frequencies.
This shouldn't reduce perfomance drastically... in fact, with proper cooling, the 5600M should perform within 10% of its desktop counterpart.

The 4900H underperformed severely compared to the 4800H in the same setup.
Its ridiculous to conclude the hw (or the GPU) is less potent than the competitor's... more to the point, its DELL's cooling implementation that's lacking (which also probably affects GPU performance).

In most scenarios though, 5600M in the Dell with 4800H seems be between 2060 and 2070 Max-Q.
This isn't actually bad at all for what is supposed to be a mid-range mobile GPU for a MUCH lower price.

I would like to see users who repasted the G5 15 5505 with say GC Gelid Extreme or Kryonaut on both APU and GPU and then test to see if the performance improved or stayed the same (given Dell's history of lackluster thermal application, its probable the performance would stabilize/improve and reduce fan noise).

[Tom556]

Great review. Though in their website they have mentioned a 144Hz Anti-Glare IPS-level Panel with 72% NTSC
With Adaptive Sync. Don't know if it's available. Check www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-A15/specifications/