No more flagship Pixels: Google Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL rumored to be powered by the Snapdragon 765G 5G

[Redaktion]

The upcoming Google Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL may not be flagship phones, if a recent teardown of a pre-release version of the Google Camera app for the Pixel 4a is any indication. The Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL are likely to be powered by the Snapdragon 765G and could be the beginning of Google's new strategy to focus on bringing more premium features to the upper-midrange segment rather than deploying the fastest SoC available.

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[S.Yu]

As long as they keep the price midrange.

[Ricci Rox]

As long as they keep the price midrange.

I have a feeling Google's definition of "mid-range pricing" will be truly groundbreaking.

Introducing the Snapdragon 765G-powered Google Pixel 5 XL, for a very affordable $799.

[SquirrelsGoneWild]

The 865 is a powerful chip, but forcing the 5G modem to be separate means more heat and energy consumption. Google has never put particularly large batteries in its phones, and likely doesn't want to follow Samsung's lead of 4,000 - 4,500 mAh in the S20. Using the 765 will let them have 5G with a smaller battery.

As Google has more software control over the Pixel's OS, users likely won't see slowdowns even without the 800-series Snapdragon processor. The Pixel 3a has been solid even with the 700-series.

[Dan6]

Then I'll go with Galaxy. Why is it so hard for google just to put latest Snapdragon, wide angle camera, 5k mAh battery and drop this useless Soli radar?

[Vaidyanathan]

As long as they keep the price midrange.

I have a feeling Google's definition of "mid-range pricing" will be truly groundbreaking.

Introducing the Snapdragon 765G-powered Google Pixel 5 XL, for a very affordable $799.

The Pixel 3a didn't make great strides (at least in India) given the $399 price, which is now flagship-killer territory. A $799 Pixel 5 would mean niche use cases, probably for the camera.

[Jay Marino]

I think not going ultra premium is the smart move here.  I was an iPhone user for 8 years.  A few years ago I moved over to the Google Pixel 2 XL.  I absolutely love the change although taking some time to get used to.  at this point I much prefer the pixel over any of the other phones.  I saw all of the hype on the Samsung Galaxy s20 ultra.  I figured on paper with specs like this with 108 megapixel camera this is the awesomest phone to get ever.  Heck it's got 12 gig of RAM!  so I bought the ultra for me and my wife we spent $3,000 on two phones.  The user experience was way worse than my pixel.  Simple tasks like getting into my phone and sending a text message took much longer than my pixel.  I also really missed the squeeze my phone feature and tell my assistant to do things for me.  The main reason why I got the ultra was for the camera.  After having the phone for 5 days and doing step by step photographs with both phones in hand my Google Pixel 2 XL outshot and outperformed the ultras camera in every single way.  I think if Google tries to fight the latest iPhone or the latest Samsung product they're going to lose because they're going to be out Spec'd .  On paper that Google phone should not be the best of anything.  But real world experience tells a much different story.  one of the best features of the Pixel phone is the fact that it gets updates every 5th of every single month without fail.  as new features come out they get immediately dropped into the phone instant improvements and refinements along the way for the next two to three years.  The phone just continues to get better and better and it's just simple and not overcrowded with extra fluff.  Not everybody has $1,500 for the latest phone and if they do you don't want to spend that money every year you want to hope to have that phone for 3 years.  I returned our two ultras and bought the Google Pixel 4 XL. I really could not be any happier.  And at $750 on sale right now from Amazon I think it's one of the best deals in the cell phone market right now.   I think we've also reached a little bit of a peak in the hardware category.  I really don't think there's going to be a lot of new features that are going to come out in the next few years with smartphones that are going to make me want to upgrade again.  Microsoft with their surface duo is the only one that's really intriguing. I would really love the idea of two screens and being able to multitask.  Remember back in the day when you only had one monitor on your main computer and how much more productive you were when you had two monitors I feel like the smartphone arena may be similar at some point.  I'm just not sure that the software is ready to catch up yet we're probably a couple years away.

[A]

Pixels should be mid range. It is often bought as a developer device, and since many of them use the pixel as the basis, they don't realize their games take forever to load on mid range/low end devices.

[S.Yu]

As long as they keep the price midrange.

I have a feeling Google's definition of "mid-range pricing" will be truly groundbreaking.

Introducing the Snapdragon 765G-powered Google Pixel 5 XL, for a very affordable $799.

Really makes me wonder what they're thinking. They bought HTC's Pixel division after all, one should think they want to actually make some money out of the handsets. If they're only making tech demonstrations then they didn't have to buy a dedicated division that made consumer oriented devices.

The 865 is a powerful chip, but forcing the 5G modem to be separate means more heat and energy consumption. Google has never put particularly large batteries in its phones, and likely doesn't want to follow Samsung's lead of 4,000 - 4,500 mAh in the S20. Using the 765 will let them have 5G with a smaller battery.

As Google has more software control over the Pixel's OS, users likely won't see slowdowns even without the 800-series Snapdragon processor. The Pixel 3a has been solid even with the 700-series.

That's entirely backwards. There's absolutely no merit to a small battery, from the consumer's perspective that is. Think of the Xperia 1 and where that got Sony. If Google insists on depriving users of needed battery capacity, their smartphone division deserves to shut down.

[S.Yu]

The user experience was way worse than my pixel.  Simple tasks like getting into my phone and sending a text message took much longer than my pixel. 

You should avoid underscreen fingerprint models, as for face unlock, there's no reason for it to lag. I've also never had issues nor heard others have issues with Samsung's SMS, though I don't use it much anyway.

I also really missed the squeeze my phone feature and tell my assistant to do things for me. 

The power button doubles as the Bixby button which could already be set to Google Assistant, most phones don't have a hardware shortcut much less the highly niche squeeze function.

The main reason why I got the ultra was for the camera.  After having the phone for 5 days and doing step by step photographs with both phones in hand my Google Pixel 2 XL outshot and outperformed the ultras camera in every single way.  I think if Google tries to fight the latest iPhone or the latest Samsung product they're going to lose because they're going to be out Spec'd .  On paper that Google phone should not be the best of anything.  But real world experience tells a much different story. 

Google doesn't make it immediately clear to the consumer that their native camera app is highly sophisticated, however, the app could be ported to most other phones, AFAIK Xiaomi's 108MP model already has a functional Gcam port, so one is inevitably coming for GS20U, and by then GS20U's massive hardware advantage would make all the difference. Also GS20U's telephoto is indisputably the best on the market from 4x on, you should've noticed that much if you really did extensive testing. You should learn a bit more about your purchase before making the dive, certainly before returning it.

one of the best features of the Pixel phone is the fact that it gets updates every 5th of every single month without fail.  as new features come out they get immediately dropped into the phone instant improvements and refinements along the way for the next two to three years.  The phone just continues to get better and better and it's just simple and not overcrowded with extra fluff. Not everybody has $1,500 for the latest phone and if they do you don't want to spend that money every year you want to hope to have that phone for 3 years.

Not everyone needs updates, updates break things occasionally. Even if they don't break things, they change functions and UI interactions without user consent (they're mandatory, annoyingly).
Samsung generally isn't "overcrowded" if you disable what you don't need upon initialization, and tends to have more functions than vanilla Android, many of which eventually make it to vanilla Android because they make sense.
Samsung also has 2-3 years of updates for flagships, my GN8 just got an update that I was reluctant to install out of fear for it breaking something, then I noticed after a couple weeks that the fingerprint payment option stopped functioning because technically my security patch was dated, forcing me to update besides the damned notifications that kept nagging me. I'd rather they stopped the updates a year ago, so my payment options aren't blocked until I update the damned firmware at the risk of bricking my phone(I had a SK variant GN8 before my current HK variant GN8, that phone entered a boot loop--soft bricked--after an update).

I returned our two ultras and bought the Google Pixel 4 XL. I really could not be any happier.  And at $750 on sale right now from Amazon I think it's one of the best deals in the cell phone market right now.   

Then you haven't seen Xiaomi. Year-old Samsungs are also heavily discounted (I just looked up a 8/512GB S10+, the HK variant which is functionally identical to the US variant costs ~$650) as long as you know where to look, Amazon is far from the cheapest place to get a phone in the first place.

[gamod]

What a disappointment...

[all41]

Aspect Screen Ratios:
20:41 -> phone
25:41 -> laptop
30:41 -> pad

[uar]

They didn't have any shame? They truly want to get that bust of the year trophy this year too? I don't understand why. I love the Pixel Experience software, but their devices have made me flash it on other OEMs devices. Please for once listen to your customers and we will return to you!

The ideal device:

Keep that rader sensor, give us Snapdragon 865+ (if it comes out) with 5G support, 5000 mAh battery on the XL, the regular can get 4500 mAh, 8 GB RAM (stock Android would handle it just fine), 128 GB, 256 GB or 512 GB options, not 64 GB (don't do what Apple does) 4K at 60 FPS recording and add an ultrawide lense.