Google and Huawei appear to have colluded over the Mate 30 series; Google Pay works despite no official certification

[Redaktion]

It has only been a week since the launch of the Mate 30 series in Munich, but it has already become clear that Google and Huawei have been working more closely together than perhaps the current US administration would like. Despite having no official access to Google products, the Mate 30 series can access services like Google Pay without issue. Read on to find out why this is the case and what Google and Huawei have done to work around the restrictions currently imposed on the Chinese company.

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[MarkC]

Gotta thanks Google and Huawei for this

[Astar]

This is a click bait article and again very much full of misinformation. Not to mention dangerous insinuation.

There has been lots of Android OS based devices that were forked from Google's official AOSP and which are not certified by Google to use Google Play but ultimately can still be made to do so. I don't even mean the Chinese branded Android devices.

An example is the Amazon Fire devices. Amazon is a competitor to Google and wants the Fire devices to be a gateway to the Amazon marketplace. Hence Amazon does not want to be slave to Google Play store. But its trivial to work around the lack of Google certification. Just Google "How to install Google Play on Amazon Fire". This does not mean that there was collusion by Amazon with anybody to work around the licensing issues or anything illegal. Once a consumer buys a piece of hardware, it is up to him/her to use it whichever he wants. Using Play Store is no different from using any other legal platform.

Lots of Chinese Android phones & tablets also use the same playground methods. In many Asian markets, consumers buy Android handsets that are "grey" or export sets and they just use the same side-loading apk methods. In the shadow of the stupid restrictions on Huawei, Huawei just becomes another Amazon, what's the big deal?

Note that the above work around does not even require root. Rooting basically means anything is possible. Just ask the XDA folks.

This is not the first time Notebookchat is using language that is asking for a defamation suit.

[Alex Alderson]

This is a click bait article and again very much full of misinformation. Not to mention dangerous insinuation.

There has been lots of Android OS based devices that were forked from Google's official AOSP and which are not certified by Google to use Google Play but ultimately can still be made to do so. I don't even mean the Chinese branded Android devices.

An example is the Amazon Fire devices. Amazon is a competitor to Google and wants the Fire devices to be a gateway to the Amazon marketplace. Hence Amazon does not want to be slave to Google Play store. But its trivial to work around the lack of Google certification. Just Google "How to install Google Play on Amazon Fire". This does not mean that there was collusion by Amazon with anybody to work around the licensing issues or anything illegal. Once a consumer buys a piece of hardware, it is up to him/her to use it whichever he wants. Using Play Store is no different from using any other legal platform.

Lots of Chinese Android phones & tablets also use the same playground methods. In many Asian markets, consumers buy Android handsets that are "grey" or export sets and they just use the same side-loading apk methods. In the shadow of the stupid restrictions on Huawei, Huawei just becomes another Amazon, what's the big deal?

Note that the above work around does not even require root. Rooting basically means anything is possible. Just ask the XDA folks.

This is not the first time Notebookchat is using language that is asking for a defamation suit.

Being able to install the Google Play Store is not the same thing as a device passing SafetyNet.

Some research into the difference between the two would have been wise before making such accusations.

[S.Yu]

It would seem so, actually many Chinese apps with payment features don't work with my SK variant phone, this was most certainly a deliberate bypass.

[ngazi]

It would seem so, actually many Chinese apps with payment features don't work with my SK variant phone, this was most certainly a deliberate bypass.

Do you mean Korean market Mate 30?

[S.Yu]

It would seem so, actually many Chinese apps with payment features don't work with my SK variant phone, this was most certainly a deliberate bypass.

Do you mean Korean market Mate 30?

No.
I'm saying secure apps have a whitelist and numerous features will be incompatible with a device not on the list despite identical hardware with a device that's whitelisted, because of a different model number registered.