Quote from: siciwuwe on January 29, 2019, 23:15:49
Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43
Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
Get real man, the 2060 is nowhere near double a 1060, unless you compare tasks specifically optimized for it like ray tracing and low level D3D APIs, which is pointless anyways. Looking at the frame rates in most games, it's only about 30-40% faster on average. Price wise, most 2060 laptops are in the $1500-1800 range. That's around the price that 1070 laptops launched at 3 years ago, and it can't even beat a 1070. If that's not disappointing to you, look at the past launches of corresponding mobile GPUs:
GTX 970M (2014) easily beats GTX 680M (2012) also much cheaper
GTX 1060 (2016) easily beats GTX 980M (2014) also much cheaper
RTX 2060 (2019) can't beat GTX 1070 (2016) and same price
The ~80W mobile GPUs could outperform the previous gen higher end/flagship models with ease and launched significantly cheaper. That's clearly not the case now and Nvidia is raising prices across the board with Turing.
Guys, let's get something clear, performance can't increase linearly from generation to generation, I think nvidia pushed the limits of technology already.
The performance part is not disappointing, the thing is that you are spoiled by the performance curve between generations. If you say that the performance between 1060 and 2060 is ONLY 40% different, and you think that is small, I'd take a 40% salary increase any time.
Now, what is unacceptable and disappointing is linear price, for non-linear performance. Then again you need to take into consideration that you are paying for new 6 cores CPUs as well, new design, slimmer bezels, and whatnot.
And yet as someone already mentioned, RTX 2060 (the only real RTX value) are selling at the same price as 1070MaxQ laptops. Around 10% more performance I reckon, for the same price, disappointing? I do not think so. Anything beyond an RTX 2060 is disappointing from a performance/value point of view.