Quote from: icentel on December 20, 2020, 10:33:44
To the people who are praising Ryzen 4000U series: amd is really lacking in terms of iGPU power, this was more noticeable to me than any multi-threading perfomance.
That's a fair point, and it demonstrates the importance of selecting hardware based on intended use, but it's also contrary to the results in this review, which showed abysmal performance of the iGPU in all but a few games. Are you seeing different results?
Currently, yes, Tiger Lake has the potential to beat Ryzen on graphics, but so far most reviews I've seen have shown it to still be slower, either because of RAM or drivers. I've only seen a couple reviews so far where it was better, though in those cases it did seem to be quite a bit so. Meanwhile, in a few months or so, Lucienne and Cezanne will be out, which will be faster, and will likely once again take the crown back from Intel, who at that point would have held it only for a short time.
Either way, personally I'd rather have slightly less graphics performance (it isn't a gaming laptop, after all) in exchange for better overall CPU performance, a cheaper price, and to support AMD. And that's not because I'm an AMD fan--I've used Intel exclusively since the Athlon 64 x2 days--it's because we need the competition. Integrated graphics are clearly important to you, and if AMD hadn't pushed Intel with Renoir, we'd probably still have UHD and Iris iGPUs, because, as Intel has shown for years, they're more than happy to keep shoveling out the same uninspired, barely improved product year after year. So I'll happily take slightly less gaming performance on an ultrabook if that means helping to push innovation so that my next laptop will have substantially more performance, vs taking a little more now and a little more later.
Also, there's the matter of availability. Both are very good, and while I prefer AMD for the above reasons, the main reason I chose a Ryzen version for my new computer is that it's definitely better than Intel's 10th gen, and there wasn't a Tiger Lake version. If there was, I might have gone that route, depending on which was better for battery life, which is more important than CPU or GPU performance (to a point) and for the AV1 support. And I absolutely would have gone with Tiger Lake if it were the only option in a laptop with the form factor I really want, which is a convertible with a Trackpoint.