Quote from: Breadcrumbs on October 25, 2024, 11:24:39But when AMD releases cheaper SKUs for their more budget range the performance for the wattage is so bad you might as well go lunar lake or even Qualcomm.
Even the morally obsolete Zen2 is equal to Lunar Lake or close in multi-threaded performance, although it consumes more. All subsequent Zen3 - easily deal with Lunar Lake in Cinebench R15. As this model is clearly faster in real laptops even more expensive Lunar Lake chips. The question is - why does anyone need this misunderstanding from Intel? For the sake of slightly faster integration, which cannot even reach the level of 8-year-old 1050Ti in top chips, in 10-year-old games?
Today, first of all, multi-threaded performance is important, and not single-threaded, in which Lunar Lake completely disgraced itself even against the background of 5-year-old AMD processors, while at a much higher price for new models with it.
As I have written many times - the main advantage of the new series is only one - a faster memory controller, about 2.5-3 times faster than in Zen2. But with Zen5 they are practically the same for the first time in the history of AMD, which previously constantly lost in RAM bandwidth to Intel chips of approximately the same year of release. So now Intel can only swallow the dust for AMD...
Qualcomm is of little use to anyone (except for those who like to show off for the company's money or when there is nowhere to put their own) it is poorly compatible with the x86 code base and real models cost 1.5 times more than they deserve.
It all comes down to who produces more mobile processors in the x86 market. And this, unfortunately, is Intel, which has lost technologically, and not AMD with clearly better processors. Everything should have been the other way around for 3 years, but alas, AMD has neither the money nor the desire to arrange the front in the x86 market in its favor, even at the time of Intel's near collapse... it is more concerned with the server market and the market of accelerators for neural networks, and game consoles, than the x86 market for ordinary consumers.