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Ryzen 5 6600H is only 5 percent faster than the Ryzen 5 5600H to feel like a rebrand in many aspects

Started by Redaktion, September 11, 2022, 07:00:52

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Redaktion

Our first benchmarks on the Ryzen 5 6600H are in and the results are a mixed bag. While integrated graphics performance is much faster than before to edge out the Iris Xe 96 EUs, actual processor performance is only slightly faster than the Ryzen 5 5600H at best.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-5-6600H-is-only-5-percent-faster-than-the-Ryzen-5-5600H-to-feel-like-a-rebrand-in-many-aspects.649276.0.html

LL

Hi Allen

"The 5600H will work best outside of gaming laptops and onto thinner Ultrabooks and mini PCs where dedicated GPU options are not usually available."

I think you mean the 6600H?

Best Regards

NikoB

The main thing in Zen3 + is not speed, although it is obvious that Intel, at the cost of a wild energy gorge, was ahead of them (again, only in tests, because in W10 their new cores do not work fully due to Microsoft or, if you like, by Wintel's conspiracy, W11, most professionals are completely not satisfied - it's a moronic system where it's not even possible to customize the interface.Even W10 is a completely moronic OS in terms of UI - it's not even possible to choose a classic interface (like W2K/XP) with compact style buttons (minimize/maximize/close) in the windows!Think about this insanity! Even in Pro-Enterprise versions it's impossible , which immediately destroys the configured software with a lot of densely packed windows on the screen!)

The main thing that Zen3+ brought to the public is the eGPU(USB40), finally reducing the shameful gap from Intel in port technologies, HDMI 2.1 (this seems to be a fake for both Intel and AMD, because both companies are silent about full support for 48Gbit/s bandwidth), AV1 decoder (although the latter is rarely needed in practice). Well and pci-e 4.0 in mobile chips with a delay of 2 years, but there should already be support for 5.0...

Therefore, as I have already written many times - "gaming" laptops on Zen3+ without eGPU (USB40) and HDMI 2.1 output are actually money down the drain and a meaningless purchase.

And this is how the full-fledged Display Port 2.0 expected by many, here, according to the information I have, will remain on paper for another whole year. Neither Intel nor AMD in the upcoming RaptorLake and Zen4 has confirmed its full support in the specifications, i.e. bandwidth 80Gbps. Only protocol level. And this is also understandable why - the speed of RAM in PCs, and even more so in laptops, is still shameful, insufficient to fully support 8k monitors without lags. You need more than 120Gbytes/s in dual-channel mode, and it is desirable that much even in single-channel mode. many illiterate consumers try to use modern 4k monitors in single-channel mode, although even Intel strongly discourages doing so. But ordinary illiterate townsfolk do not read datasheets...

The whole problem for AMD is that they can't provide massive shipments of the latest SoCs that are really in demand with the newest cores (for each year!) and can't get into TSMC's 3nm pipeline. This is only allowed to Apple. Therefore, the silicon process gap with Intel will rapidly shrink. And without an advantage in the technical processes, AMD begins to lose to Intel, which still holds more than 70% of the processor market on the planet, including servers. All the money goes to Intel, not for AMD. AMD's "successes" as a fabless company apparently finally end in 2024-2025. Of course, remember that AMD has a "secret" Intel gasket from US antimonopoly officials and other countries, Intel will not let it fall AMD completely, as before, but unless a miracle happens , AMD will again wait for a decade of oblivion ...


PHVM_BR

This is exactly the same mistake made in the article about i5-1235U.
It's just a matter of sustained power cap. The Legion 5 (15"/17") with 5600H can extract all its performance while maintaining ~65W sustained power.
The tested Gaming 3 can maintain a lower power...
Despite this, the performance difference is small between 5600H and 6600H and should be ~10% at similar power.

WaitWhat

You are comparing things without taking context into consideration. Comparing Xe 96EU to Vega 8 it's pretty similar in performance. And the 660M is on par with both of them but it's a lower tier GPU. So the 680M beats them all easily. Raptor Lake mobile will probably stay at 96EUs so if AMD wins graphics no matter what and if they upgrade to RDNA3 for Ryzen 7000 Mobile they just destroy Intel in graphics. Pretty much all gaming handhelds rely on Ryzen APUs with Intel nowhere to be found just as a hint 😉

Regor

Quote from: NikoB on September 11, 2022, 09:47:07AMD's "successes" as a fabless company apparently finally end in 2024-2025. Of course, remember that AMD has a "secret" Intel gasket from US antimonopoly officials and other countries, Intel will not let it fall AMD completely, as before, but unless a miracle happens , AMD will again wait for a decade of oblivion ...

Is this NikoB dude an intel shill from userbenchmark lol all i ever see them doing on any review is bash any and all amd products in all use cases and all performance levels

alp

6600H brings other benefits such as support for USB 4 (40 Gbps), PCI-E Gen 4, DDR5-4800MT/s, LPDDR5-6400MT/s, Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth LE 5.2, DisplayPort 2, and AV1 decode.... not everything is about speed.
You can even connect external GPU via USB4 port, allowing more flexibility in terms of graphics solutions.

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