AMD Zen 5 Strix Point CPU analysis - Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 versus Intel Core Ultra, Apple M3 and Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite

[gnfnfgfdb]

Minisforum bots are worse than t-shirt bots on X

[GeorgeS]

sigh

I'm sorry but it would appear that many of you live in a FAR DIFFERENT world/reality than I do as for +40yrs each and every company I ever worked for PROVIDED any and all tools & equipment needed (IE: read COMPUTERS) to do whatever job they were asking & paying me for.

Personally the countless desktops and laptops I've owned I've NEVER had a RAM module fail. While I'd agree that ALL OEM's place a premium on RAM & storage (some more than others) shoppers can save sizeable amounts of $$ if they can do upgrades themselves.

With the above said even 8GB/128GB is plenty for the majority of people. As an example at a company that employs >100K <%10 need 32GB and <%2 need >=64GB to do their jobs. :)

[SmithA]

While I'd agree that ALL OEM's place a premium on RAM

People here referred many times to Xiaomi with cheap soldered ram yet everyone has a blind spot for it and focuses on Apple and Microsoft for absolutely no reason.

[Dan6]

I want Surface and it's not even available in my region with 32gigs.. so what? I should fly to US because I want good laptop with 32gigs?

He didn't tell you anything about "max ram", he has told you "today's default value is 16-32" and you want surface with soldered ram! 32!! so why did you even write your message. Some kind of a weird way of confirming your opponent was right.

Why, no, I don't want Surface with soldered ram, I want Surface with swappable ram! Read through entire thread.. It wasn't reply to his first statement.. I probably had to cut the quotes to avoid misunderstanding. I replied specifically to this statement:
"Pick a laptop that doesn't require 700eur for 32gb, there's lots for every budget today, get xiaomi if you don't have money for apple or surface."

And my point is that swappable ram is good, because I could just buy 16 gigs surface (or any other laptop I like) and upgrade ram to any amount I need and do not limit my search by ram. Guys, swappable ram isn't about "saving money" as Apple taught you..

And yeah, it's just an example of why swappable ram is good from my previous experience. I have no intention to buy any laptop now.

[randon]

I don't want Surface with soldered ram, I want Surface with swappable ram

Lol
So soldered ram is "bad" just because he can't cheap out on hardware anymore and keeps ignoring the fact xiaomi has cheap soldered ram, because he wants surface he can't afford.

[Harrykonstantinos]

When doing efficiency tests, you should use efficient examples of the respective chips.

Comparing Shenker XMG is a bizarre choice. The hp probook with 7840hs can match m3 pro in cinebench efficiency test, but the results for 7840hs on this site are an aggregate including mini pcs... same goes for 8000 series, but the options aren't as good.

But you used an optimal laptop choice for meteor lake...

Atleast on a test like this use the right kind of laptops man...

Otherwise, interesting article, can't wait to see halo convertible options, but I'd love that proart foldy. (>Digital painter man)

[Harrykonstantinos]

I just noticed something (me and a friend are checking out why there are no 370 handhelds yet and if the 370 represents the high tdp model. From what I can see 15w=50% of 80w performance, which would suggest this is optimal at low limits.)

According to this according to the graphs the 370 gets 20 points per watt vs M3 28 and MP pro omitted for some reason, but according to the TDP range testing, it can achieve 621pnts in CB24 at 15w vs M3 601 points at 20w, which would mean it runs more efficient in multi core than even the M3, but does the tuning utility cap the the PL to 15w or does it allow for variation?

[TimJobs]

Only custom built desktop is left where we can add RAM or any other component as per our requirement.

Almost all of the manufacturers are going the route of everything soldered for better or worse. And those who are not doing it now will do it later.

Soldered RAM does bring benefit but it is expensive in the long run in case if one wanted to increase RAM for new requirements.

Personally I have built a desktop and every components are of my choice and since it is a desktop so no need to worry about thermal headroom, battery, upgrade ability etc.

Using the iPad Pro for portability (accessing the windows desktop via remote desktop).

But this workflow is not for everyone. So plan out accordingly and don't hope for the manufacturers to listen customers need. They will pump out products whether anyone likes it or not. Find out what works for you in a given time period and implement otherwise move on. Don't wait.