Is the MacBook still worth buying in 2024? Check out these 4 laptops lasting over 15 hours on a single charge

[NikoB]

You totally ignored the "mini" in "miniPC", which use laptop HW, so they use very little power.

Again complete nonsense, because they do not have a keyboard and screen like laptops, and the body is much smaller in volume and therefore the cooling system is even noisier than that of laptops. And this is not an autonomous, self-sufficient laptop with batteries for at least 2-3 hours. Therefore, miniPC is the most idiotic solution from the PC camp.

Again... why are some people against other people wanting ultra-long lasting batteries?

I have never stated this. But modern battery technology (despite 100500 promises over 20 years from upstart startups) is still bad and cannot keep modern laptops running at 80-100W for at least 12 hours with a minimum of 3000 cycles before capacity drops by 25%. For this you need a capacity of at least 1200 Wh, i.e. 10-15 times higher than current batteries. But if they don't allow planes with 100Wh+ batteries, how will they allow them into airplanes with 1000Wh+? This is the second problem. And it expires due to the explosiveness and enormous energy released by such a container (this is already close to the level of energy released by a hand grenade during an explosion). Batteries for 1200-1500 Wh should be absolutely safe in everyday life. There are simply no such technologies on the planet.

Therefore, any laptop (especially modern monsters due to the deliberate cheating started by Intel/Nvidia with consumption, because technical processes do not give the necessary increase when moving to the next generation of ASML scanners and performance per 1W in the form of a graph becomes an increasingly flat curve, and not as before - an exponential growth curve) works normally only from the power supply, but it is in this mode that modern models with moronic USB-C power supply cannot be safely used on beds and sofas reclining, resting for right-handed people. because their feet are right on the left, where the moronic manufacturers install USB-C power ports, instead of placing them symmetrically on the left and right or in the back, or supplementing them with a reliable angled round plug, as has always been the case before.

The younger generation of designers in development departments are clearly idiots who have no qualifications in laptop ergonomics. I would fire them all for such decisions.

[heffeque]

Again complete nonsense, because they do not have a keyboard and screen like laptops, and the body is much smaller in volume and therefore the cooling system is even noisier than that of laptops. And this is not an autonomous, self-sufficient laptop with batteries for at least 2-3 hours.

Well, I do know of people who go this route, either they have portable screens/keyboards because they use their miniPC in a portable way only a very small amount of times that doesn't justify having a laptop, or people that have a screen and/or keyboard at their usual destinations. It's not the most common use-cases, but they exist.
As for cooling systems... I guess that you live in the 90s or something. There are plenty of miniPC with great cooling solutions. Great current example, the HX99G. It has large fans, so they don't sound squeal when on high demanding situations. You are just misinformed, that's all.

Therefore, miniPC is the most idiotic solution from the PC camp.

You keep insulting people's choices for some reason, is it because you want people to internet-fight you or something?
In my case I'm going to buy a miniPC because 99% of the time my laptop is plugged into the TV. I'll keep my (old) laptop for those rare occasions I do use it as a laptop, and I'll just go ahead and buy myself a fairly decent miniPC (Atomman G7 Pt) that will have desktop performance, can run silently when used as HTPC, and is small enough to fit behind my TV. I don't see how that is an idiotic solution, but... you do you!

I have never stated this. But modern battery technology (despite 100500 promises over 20 years from upstart startups) is still bad and cannot keep modern laptops running at 80-100W for at least 12 hours with a minimum of 3000 cycles before capacity drops by 25%. For this you need a capacity of at least 1200 Wh, i.e. 10-15 times higher than current batteries. But if they don't allow planes with 100Wh+ batteries, how will they allow them into airplanes with 1000Wh+? This is the second problem. And it expires due to the explosiveness and enormous energy released by such a container (this is already close to the level of energy released by a hand grenade during an explosion). Batteries for 1200-1500 Wh should be absolutely safe in everyday life. There are simply no such technologies on the planet.

What are you talking about... granades...? Are you OK? It's about very efficient processors coupled with very efficient OS and fairly large batteries, not about having 80-100W laptops running on shoe-box-sized batteries.
As a separate note, personally I cannot wait for Sodium based solid-state electrolyte batteries to be a thing, but we are still a bunch of years away (hopefully sooner, but not soon enough).

Therefore, any laptop (especially modern monsters due to the deliberate cheating started by Intel/Nvidia with consumption, because technical processes do not give the necessary increase when moving to the next generation of ASML scanners and performance per 1W in the form of a graph becomes an increasingly flat curve, and not as before - an exponential growth curve) works normally only from the power supply, but it is in this mode that modern models with moronic USB-C power supply cannot be safely used on beds and sofas reclining, resting for right-handed people. because their feet are right on the left, where the moronic manufacturers install USB-C power ports, instead of placing them symmetrically on the left and right or in the back, or supplementing them with a reliable angled round plug, as has always been the case before.

The younger generation of designers in development departments are clearly idiots who have no qualifications in laptop ergonomics. I would fire them all for such decisions.

You seem very angry. Hope you are OK.

[George]

Humm...

Here's a few general use cases where long battery life come in handy:

- Periodic use away from mains WITHOUT bringing additional weight of charger with you
- Access to mains is limited in both location and time duration

Both how long a device will operate on battery as well as recovery time when on mains are important to mobile users.

While I applaud the EU directive to have USBC on EVERYTHING I'm also NOT A FAN of destructive connectors sticking out of my devices!! Here the MAGJACK on my 2013 MBP has saved itself (and my Mac) more times than I can count!

Here in the US a inexpensive 12V 'lighter to USBC' >=65W adapter & suitable USBC cable can supply a quick charge to almost anything with a USBC port.