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Dell XPS 13 9345 Snapdragon X Elite review: Undercutting the Intel Core Ultra 7

Started by Redaktion, August 06, 2024, 02:25:03

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dougdoug

Quote from: NikoB (shame NB moders) on August 09, 2024, 14:45:49And that's why the share of desktop Windows is more than 80%? =)
There's a lot of tech illiterate like you, who can't install linux or break it in 3 hours and have no money on apple.
Funny guy, linux is in your phone and even your vacuum cleaner is running a thinned-down ubuntu.

naik

I have hard time making sense of the power numbers. It shows, 4.5 watts as average idle power. so by definition a 55WH battery at idle should last 12 hrs. Then can you explain the battery life numbers of over 20-25 hrs??. What am I missing here? is the laptop being put to sleep between the tasks to that test intermittent load. Is the physics broken here?

GeorgeS

IMHO: Win on ARM is simply a CHROME device alternate.

- limited use
- limited compatibility
- limited (soon!) cost

Most professional software applications are compiled to run on x86 and WIN.

Granted there are some exceptions as well as some (many?) could/might be able to recompile for ARM however without a large enough user base asking (demanding?) it, it will never happen.

indy

Quote from: NikoB (shame NB moders) on August 09, 2024, 14:45:49
Quote from: werwtt on August 09, 2024, 10:32:10Problem is Windows itself, it's so bad now only gamers and technically illiterate use it. First category specifically gets x86 and second just grabs first available laptop they get recommended.
And that's why the share of desktop Windows is more than 80%? =) And Linux is used only by red-eyed geeks who have nowhere to spend their personal time - it's free and endless for them?

Desktop?  You mean the technology that was used in the 80s and 90s?
More than 60% of ALL operating systems for computing devices use the Linux kernel.
Even higher if you count *nix.

dvsdv

Quote from: naik on August 09, 2024, 17:51:12I have hard time making sense of the power numbers. It shows, 4.5 watts as average idle power. so by definition a 55WH battery at idle should last 12 hrs. Then can you explain the battery life numbers of over 20-25 hrs??. What am I missing here? is the laptop being put to sleep between the tasks to that test intermittent load. Is the physics broken here?
Power measurements are done on wall socket in Performance mode, battery life measurements are done on Battery in some of Windows base low power modes.

dvsdv

Quote from: GeorgeS on August 10, 2024, 23:18:50- limited use
- limited compatibility
- limited (soon!) cost
Don't be stupid. These problems are heavily exaggerated by competitior's marketing. Everything you need works and is native. Everything that's not native will be there in 1-3 years.
Windows/x86 is a slow ecosystem, it took them 3 years and 2.5 windows versions to move all apps from win32 to win64.

GeorgeS

Quote from: dvsdv on August 11, 2024, 16:50:33
Quote from: GeorgeS on August 10, 2024, 23:18:50- limited use
- limited compatibility
- limited (soon!) cost
Don't be stupid. These problems are heavily exaggerated by competitior's marketing. Everything you need works and is native. Everything that's not native will be there in 1-3 years.
Windows/x86 is a slow ecosystem, it took them 3 years and 2.5 windows versions to move all apps from win32 to win64.

*sigh*

"WIN-on-ARM" has been around for HOW LONG? And in all this time just how many professional applications have been moved over?

Granted, Apple's CPU conversion went fairly ok as we don't hear of endless grips of applications NOT running on their M series APU's.



dofr

Quote from: GeorgeS on August 13, 2024, 06:06:26"WIN-on-ARM" has been around for HOW LONG?
"Being around" means nothing without hardware.
Quote from: GeorgeS on August 13, 2024, 06:06:26And in all this time just how many professional applications have been moved over?
Like half of them? The most important ones (Photoshop/Lightroom/Office/VS/DaVinci/Wondershare) are already on the platform? Most of the rest are working via emulation? Even if emulation is 2x slower than native, it's still about the level of M1 performance on X Elite.

indy

Quote from: dofr on August 13, 2024, 12:57:48
Quote from: GeorgeS on August 13, 2024, 06:06:26"WIN-on-ARM" has been around for HOW LONG?
"Being around" means nothing without hardware.
Quote from: GeorgeS on August 13, 2024, 06:06:26And in all this time just how many professional applications have been moved over?
Like half of them? The most important ones (Photoshop/Lightroom/Office/VS/DaVinci/Wondershare) are already on the platform? Most of the rest are working via emulation? Even if emulation is 2x slower than native, it's still about the level of M1 performance on X Elite.

You do realize there are tens of thousands of applications beyond Photoshop, correct?

dofr

Quote from: indy on August 13, 2024, 18:29:22You do realize there are tens of thousands of applications beyond Photoshop
Are you yet another guy who requires "tens of thousands of applications" but in reality is using only Chrome and Office?

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