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Core i7-1260U debut: Dell Latitude 13 9330 2-in-1 convertible review

Started by Redaktion, November 19, 2022, 21:17:44

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Redaktion

If the top-of-the-line Latitude 7330 isn't good enough for you, then the top top-of the line Latitude 9330 might be up your alley. The 9330 offers a roomier 16:10 form factor, thinner profile, and even more USB-C ports for improved docking capabilities.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Core-i7-1260U-debut-Dell-Latitude-13-9330-2-in-1-convertible-review.668675.0.html

Steve Schardein

Great review, thanks Allen! Just ordered one of these for a client and excited to receive it and play with it during setup. ;-)

-Steve

kek

"are shipping with 1000-nit display options and 5 MP webcams whereas the Latitude 9330 is stuck at 500 nits and 2 MP"

Yeah, you forgot to mention that 1000-nit display is the shitty privacy one that HP uses which is terrible.
2 MP webcam is, I think, enough for a laptop. You won't be recording 8K video with that.

LL

Another primitive logic overpriced system. There are no excuses for a laptop with no discrete GPU to have cooling issues, noise and related ailing's.

Abc

Quote from: LL on November 20, 2022, 00:21:37There are no excuses for a laptop with no discrete GPU to have cooling issues, noise and related ailing's.

I think you forgot this is an Intel system. Look at the stress test energy consumption. 36W sustained under load? Sorry remind me what TDP of the i7 1260U is? 9W? Does that number mean anything? Might as well call it an i3-1220P (28W) right? Is that a cooling issue? Or does it look to me like "AMD is wiping the floor with our chips at 15W so we will run our chip at 30W to beat them" issue?

Dorby

"A higher refresh rate would have improved touchscreen responsiveness as well."

Not necessarily. You need a combination of
1) high refresh
2) low response times
3) low polling rate
4) software touch input optimization

for a touchscreen device to feel "responsive". In 2022, there are no laptops with all 4, whereas most mobile tablets and smartphone displays already do so.

Hernandez

Dell products are horrible. This company does not even have live staff residing state side. It outsourced all its customer service to Asia and this staff doesn't seem to know much about the operation of Dell products. Don't take my words for it, just verify it on your own, before purchasing a Dell product. Also be careful with their warranty, as they don't honor it. I speak from experience. I had their staff give me the run around, scheduling services, then marking them as completed even though they never completed the work order. So, just be careful.

Pej

Quote from: Hernandez on December 31, 2022, 08:14:18Dell products are horrible. This company does not even have live staff residing state side. It outsourced all its customer service to Asia and this staff doesn't seem to know much about the operation of Dell products. Don't take my words for it, just verify it on your own, before purchasing a Dell product. Also be careful with their warranty, as they don't honor it. I speak from experience. I had their staff give me the run around, scheduling services, then marking them as completed even though they never completed the work order. So, just be careful.

Get ProSupport and you'll have no issues. They even send a person out to replace parts. Been a great experience for me.

DPC Expert

This site is awful when it comes to everything DPC, and considering that's the main attraction here I feel vindicated in being harsh about this. This entire website is objectively misinformation when it comes to DPC, but I'll explain why so people can learn:

1) The testing methodology is terrible here. Every single LatencyMon test MUST be ran for exactly the same amount of time or you CANNOT rightfully compare one computer to another. This is basic troubleshooting and benchmarking 101 information, eliminate the variables. In other words, every test should be 5 minutes, not a minute more or less.

2) This site sorts the tables according to the highest SPIKE in DPC, which is not at all indicative of overall performance. Yes, spikes matter, but what matters far MORE is the AVERAGE DPC latency which is on a different tab in LatencyMon than what the owner's constantly post screenshots of. That is how the tables should be sorted, and this information is more critical than the spikes.

3) Another huge testing methodology flaw is there is way, way, way too much crap running on these computers, evident in the task manager. Handles over 100,000 ROFL, good grief. ALL tests must be performed on a CLEAN install of Windows, without ANY drivers installed. That's how you get a baseline for the HARDWARE. Or you could ONLY install the required drivers (no optional drivers or other bloat) and then record that data.

4) ALL tests must be done on exactly the same build of Windows. You also must not have an active internet connection because the background processes in Windows will use this and interfere with the benchmarking. This is again, basic benchmarking 101 information. You also do not test DPC latency by opening up a browser, playing videos, etcetera, because that has way too many variables. Idling at the desktop with or without drivers is really all you need, don't overcomplicate it because once you start running other software like a browser you then add a ton of variables, such as coding that might not play nice with very specific hardware or drivers, etcetera. That's why we just record data while idle at the desktop. In addition, always perform a reboot before benchmarking, then wait 5 minutes before starting to record so the bulk of the background activity can die down.

There's more I can get into, but clearly there is more wrong on this site regarding DPC than there is correct. All of these DPC tests are completely invalid and cannot be used at all to compare one laptop to another. It's completely inaccurate, I cannot stress just how bad the tests here are. I've made this comment on both the lowest and highest DPC laptops to help get this information seen so the viewers know that the most important aspect of this site isn't valid, and hopefully the owners will not knee-jerk at me, and instead take this constructive criticism to heart and fix their site.

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