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Tesla Semi truck stops would consume the electricity of small town USA as launch event scheduled for December 1

Started by Redaktion, November 15, 2022, 11:18:55

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Redaktion

A utility company has run the numbers and warns that the US grid can't provide the charging power for all the upcoming electric trucks like the Tesla Semi that will be released on December 1. The electrification of a typical gas station would demand the amount needed for a sports stadium, while a regular truck stop would need the electricity of a small town.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-Semi-truck-stops-would-consume-the-electricity-of-small-town-USA-as-launch-event-scheduled-for-December-1.668564.0.html

SirStephenH

I think it'll solve itself for the most part. We'll see wind and solar go up near truck stops to cover the extra need. The lucky ones will be able to build out their own for lower energy prices, others will partner with other businesses or local utilities. The remainder will die off or be bailed out by Congress.



Clifton

This again shows again this nation is pushing something it is not prepared for.
We as a nation is so far in debt and companies will tely on the tax payers subsidies to pay for it. Especially if it comes down to companies in small rural areas.
Is the government going to pay for private business to have charging systems, even portable in time. I am talking construction, farmers and other businesses that have to be mobile.
Farmers that have 5,000 acres to farm and travel 20 plus miles to get to all the land is looking at problems.
Will they have batteries that will last 18 hours and charge in 4 to 6.

RumpleFartSkinz

Too bad the utilities didn't have the last 15 years to invest and ramp up for future demand. Oh wait, they did but chose to spend the money on lobbying for fossil fuels instead.

This complaint also chooses to ignore the fact that a theoretical max load doesn't indicate the real world usage.

Also, for anyone with a snide reply about coal generating the electricity to charge the trucks, did you know it takes more electricity to refine the oil to put into the trucks than it does to charge them directly? Ignoring that fact, we shouldn't be using coal to power anything anyways. That's a separate issue.

David C

Quote from: EvilNick on November 16, 2022, 17:55:23All powered by COAL. INSANITY lol

Almost NONE of this is powered by Coal in California.
Coal went down from 70% of electricity to only 20% of electricity nationwide in about 10 years.
Coal will be almost None of the electricity grid by the end of the decade in the US.

And California has almost NO Coal and is one of the highest Renewable states in the country.

David C

Quote from: RumpleFartSkinz on November 19, 2022, 05:06:01Too bad the utilities didn't have the last 15 years to invest and ramp up for future demand. Oh wait, they did but chose to spend the money on lobbying for fossil fuels instead.

This complaint also chooses to ignore the fact that a theoretical max load doesn't indicate the real world usage.

Also, for anyone with a snide reply about coal generating the electricity to charge the trucks, did you know it takes more electricity to refine the oil to put into the trucks than it does to charge them directly? Ignoring that fact, we shouldn't be using coal to power anything anyways. That's a separate issue.

Yes, Any utilities who didn't start putting in renewables at scale a decade or more ago were asleep at the wheel and will be replaced by one who did...or new companies that will replace them.
Most EVs are charged at night when there is almost no demand relative to the peak hours.
This isn't even an issue for nearly any well run utility and Tesla is putting in 100 stall chargers with Solar Panels on the roofs and Battery Storage to keep the chargers going.
Cheers!

David C

Quote from: Clifton on November 17, 2022, 15:36:33This again shows again this nation is pushing something it is not prepared for.
We as a nation is so far in debt and companies will tely on the tax payers subsidies to pay for it. Especially if it comes down to companies in small rural areas.
Is the government going to pay for private business to have charging systems, even portable in time. I am talking construction, farmers and other businesses that have to be mobile.
Farmers that have 5,000 acres to farm and travel 20 plus miles to get to all the land is looking at problems.
Will they have batteries that will last 18 hours and charge in 4 to 6.

This isn't even remotely a problem and will decrease the reliance on OIL where OPEC+ Sets the PRICES, a CARTEL of many countries who dislike the US and are just cranking up OIL / Gasoline and Diesel Prices.
Time to get OFF the OIL addiction once and for all. Prices for gasoline in the US are held hostage by the OPEC+ countries...they set market prices.

Deere and Caterpillar all the other farm and construction equipment manufacturers can make EV equipment, there are already Monster Dumptrucks made as EVs and will replace the Diesel guzzlers.
The construction and Farm equipment will almost certainly be made with swap-able Battery Packs, so that they can just be swapped and then keep running.

The Wu

As the article points out, the problem is not the quantity of energy required, but the speed that it must be delivered. This is easily solved by something Tesla is already doing. Battery storage helps equalize the load on the grid, by charging @ a much more constant rate, while delivering spikes of high-speed output, to help insulate the grid from these spikes.

Anti-Propaganda

The headline has been well crafted, so the blind will immediately think electric trucks are wasting energy. Is it safe to say that a 100 gallon tank on a diesel truck can power a large city for the same amount of time?

Rjny51

No one is willing to speak the truth so I will. The world is not falling apart global warming is a scam. The push to use renewables Is is nothing more than fear mongering And moving the goal posts. In the US alone we have approximately 200 years reserve of oil and it's not being used. What everyone is going to experience are power disruptions higher energy prices and loss of freedom of movement as well as severe price increases across the board all so large corporate interests can buy and sell carbon credits to make money.  If you think this is about saving the atmosphere you are sadly mistaken. Big oil will go along with us program because the barriers to entry For other corporations to enter are so high. This is just another money making scam By well connected people and corporations  As well as our corrupt government In order to fleece the public out of their money through higher prices. No one mentions Did the rest of the world is not going along with this And what happens if mother nature decides to have volcanic eruptions throughout the world  Or other natural disasters In order to bring the world's atmosphere back into balance. Questions like these are never raised by the people in power. Global warming is a scam. The world has only been keeping records since around the 1830s of the Climate and it's fluctuated maybe 1゚in almost 200 years.  I would call that pretty stable.

Mikeythegoomba

Why are you so scared of renewables?  Do you own stock in big oil or a fleet of gas engine vehicles?  If not, stop listening to politicians and radio hosts who do own those things and therefore have a financial incentive to s*** on renewables.  This is happening.  You can like it or not, but get used to it.

KC

Quote from: David C on November 19, 2022, 05:13:42
Quote from: EvilNick on November 16, 2022, 17:55:23All powered by COAL. INSANITY lol

Almost NONE of this is powered by Coal in California.
Coal went down from 70% of electricity to only 20% of electricity nationwide in about 10 years.
Coal will be almost None of the electricity grid by the end of the decade in the US.

And California has almost NO Coal and is one of the highest Renewable states in the country.

no wonder why everything's so expensive there!

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