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NVIDIA RTX Titan Ada: Four-slot and full AD102 graphics card shelved after melting PSUs

Started by Redaktion, October 09, 2022, 15:48:22

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Quote from: Haryana on October 10, 2022, 04:36:21
Quote from: Bavor on October 10, 2022, 03:21:23
Quote from: Haryana on October 09, 2022, 20:55:58This is BS. You can't run a pair of RTX 3090 on a 15a 120V.

That's like powering a car with midgets pedaling underneath. Moron.

I see you failed basic math. 

Let me do the basic math for you: 15 amps x 120 volts = 1,800 watts

"From the factory, the GeForce RTX 3090 Ti comes with the highest power consumption we've ever recorded from an Nvidia GPU, with a reference specification of around 450W. And that number increases up to 550W for select AIB partner cards (yes that is an additional 100W over reference)."

Basic math: 450w x 2 = 900w. That leaves 900w. Are you running a small microwave to heat up breast milk ever so delicately? Definitely not a gaming rig.

What a PATHETIC joke.

Just because they didn't test a card with a power draw over 450 watts doesn't mean they don't exist. 

Kingpin 3090 1000 watt BIOS

Kingpin 520 watt BIOS

Another Kingpin 520 watt BIOS

Another Kingpin 520 watt BIOS

The later versions of the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 also shipped with a 500 watt BIOS.

The Kingpin 3090 ti also had a 1000 watt BIOS option

Bavor

Quote from: Haryana on October 10, 2022, 04:46:12
Quote from: Bavor on October 10, 2022, 03:44:07
Quote from: RobertJasiek on October 09, 2022, 19:42:15How have you cooled the two RTX 3090 Kingpin cards and how far from each other have they been?

The stock coolers are a 360mm AIO.  I've also used the two different water blocks that are available for the cards, EVGA and Optimus.  I usually have them in the same motherboard at 3 slot spacing and use the Nvidia 3 slot NVLink adapter.  I also have a 4 slit NVLink bridge when its necessary.

I also
have the KP Cooling LN2 pots for dry ice and LN2 use.  However they aren't needed to keep the cards cool at 600-700 watts.

3 times... this is written like my 4 year old niece.



Avoid places with people and direct sunlight.

Thanks

When people start nit picking grammar, you know they lost.  Its sad that is what you resort to when you are proven wrong.

Bavor

Quote from: Kalebg on October 11, 2022, 01:04:25
Quote from: Bavor on October 10, 2022, 03:21:23
Quote from: Haryana on October 09, 2022, 20:55:58This is BS. You can't run a pair of RTX 3090 on a 15a 120V.

That's like powering a car with midgets pedaling underneath. Moron.

I see you failed basic math. 

Let me do the basic math for you: 15 amps x 120 volts = 1,800 watts
Quote from: Haryana on October 10, 2022, 04:46:12
Quote from: Bavor on October 10, 2022, 03:44:07
Quote from: RobertJasiek on October 09, 2022, 19:42:15How have you cooled the two RTX 3090 Kingpin cards and how far from each other have they been?

The stock coolers are a 360mm AIO.  I've also used the two different water blocks that are available for the cards, EVGA and Optimus.  I usually have them in the same motherboard at 3 slot spacing and use the Nvidia 3 slot NVLink adapter.  I also have a 4 slit NVLink bridge when its necessary.

I also
have the KP Cooling LN2 pots for dry ice and LN2 use.  However they aren't needed to keep the cards cool at 600-700 watts.

3 times... this is written like my 4 year old niece.



Avoid places with people and direct sunlight.

Thanks

I mean to start 15amp outlet voltage can be 120v to 110v. Low end you have 110v @15a you get 1650 watts, high end 120V 15A you get 1800 watts. Continuous load in not to exceed 80% giving you 1320-1440 watts.

Lets split the diff and say 1400 watts available. With a 80+ gold PSU at full load and 87% efficiency (not plugging in a PSU that WAY over specs the receptacle) you get a whopping 1200 watts output to your pc.
1200 watts -550 watt gpu -550 watt gpu - 150 watt mobo/cpu/ram and your already 50 watts over your receptacles rated power.
No monitor. No fan. No heater.
Absolutle best case scenario you have GREAT utility voltage and are running at 100% of the receptacles rating. Thats not even touching on transient voltage spikes or overclocking.

You are forgetting that the supposed circuit breaker tripping, PSU wire melting card in the original article did not have SLI.  SLI was dropped for the RTX 4000 series.  My point was that you can draw well over the claimed power of the 600 watt card without issues.  So the claim that Nvidia didn't produce a 600 watt RTX Titan Ada because power supplies and 120v 15A outlets can't handle it(which other reliable sources say is complete BS and made up) is that a 600 watt max power draw GPU was tripping circuit breakers and melting wires is false.

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Quote from: DoubleLlamaDrama on October 11, 2022, 01:11:49I'm pretty sure it's melting power supplies, not the wires in your house. Which is the problem.

If a 600 watt GPU is melting power supplies, its either a cheap $50 1000+ watt generic PSU or some other inadequate power supply for a 600 watt graphics card.  Power supplies should trip over current protection before wires melt, unless they are gigabyte power supplies or very cheaply made power supplies that aren't designed for their "rated" wattage.

cfb

"Hey everyone! Let's quote Moores law is dead, who has struck out on a ton of alleged 'inside information', as though he's a good source!!1!

Like when he assured us all that Intel was scrapping it's gpu business and wasn't going to actually ship a product?

Which never happened, and doesn't look to be likely?

He either makes things up or has friends who don't really have any valid inside information?

Lastly, it looks like Moore's law is alive and well.

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