AMD Ryzen 5 6600H vs Intel Core i5-12600H: New PassMark run leaves Alder Lake part with an edge but Rembrandt has RDNA2 appeal

[Redaktion]

The AMD Ryzen 5 6600H processor has finally made its way onto PassMark where it has produced synthetic benchmark results that put it into close-quarter confrontation with the Intel Core i5-12600H. However, while the Alder Lake part has to make do with Iris XE Graphics (80 EUs), the Rembrandt chip can boast of having an RDNA2-powered Radeon 660M iGPU.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-5-6600H-vs-Intel-Core-i5-12600H-New-PassMark-run-leaves-Alder-Lake-part-with-an-edge-but-Rembrandt-has-RDNA2-appeal.636639.0.html

[FFS Passmark sucks]

S T O P using PassMark. It is highly inaccurate. I don't care if it favors Intel or AMD. Passmark is not only inaccurate but incredibly easy to manipulate.

[NikoB]

All this is wonderful and the fact that the autonomy of solutions with AMD is undoubtedly higher. That's just the 4th year AMD releases "paper" processors. Decisions on them at least in retail. Take 2021 and Zen3, laptops in the most mainstream and most popular 15.6"+ class for business on the 5600U/5800U (and their Pro 5650/5850 versions) were only HP G8 455/855 with 2 slots . It was enough to check it in Google for the whole of 2021! At the same time, in general, in retail, laptops based on fresh Zen3 were in a ratio of 1 to 10, at least, in comparison with Intel variants on TigerLake, i.e. AMD occupies even less than 10% of the laptop market and is not able to mass-produce exactly the fresh line Zen3. In retail in 2021 (and even now) there was and is a dominance of outdated versions on Zen2/Zen2+.

And from 2021, Intel began to release a "paper" series - Alder Lake. Where are the mass business models on the U/P series in 15.6 "+? They simply do not exist.

Lenovo officially claims that Alder Lake loses sharply in terms of Zen3+ autonomy. In psref for the same model with the same battery, the difference is 9.8h vs 12h in favor of AMD. See psref for the Legion 7 2022 series.

The only reason why you should choose Intel is the presence of TB4.0(3.0) ports that have the ability to connect an eGPU by pci-e 3.0 x4 link, which AMD versions do not have for all manufacturers of notebooks. Thus, buyers of the AMD version are at a significant loss (100% not possible to upgrade the video card) in terms of the possibility of upgrading the laptop's video system. In the future, it will be possible to connect even 5090Ti with an eGPU link (even the performance loss of 25-35% due to the narrow x4 pci-e 3.0 link is insignificant compared to the real increase in fps and image quality), and in the desktop version, without TDP restrictions and with quieter cooling (for example, water). The owner of the AMD version has no choice – as soon as the video chip becomes obsolete, he will have to change the entire laptop to a new one. While the owner of Intel will have to spend only on the riser for eGPU, PSU and a new desktop video card.

If it goes on like this, Intel and its antimonopoly "shadow" AMD can safely announce "new" series of processors at least every month - anyway, after the announcement of new lines for six months, buying something sane and supporting all the declared SoC chips is simply unrealistic. Both companies are now announcing a new series, and the old one is on sale year after for almost 8-9 months, almost before the new series is announced.

And now we will see 15.6-17" laptops on Alder Lake/Zen3+ in retail just in time for the announcement of Raptor Lake and Zen4. Well, why all this dusting in the eyes of the world public from Intel and AMD, if in reality they cannot provide mass production of the latest chips and are constantly late with their real production by almost a year since the announcement of the new series?

If it weren't, stores would be flooded with Alder Lake and Zen3+ as early as the spring, starting in March, but we're already in the second half of summer...

[NikoB]

In the H series, no one cares about the performance of the built-in videochip - there is always a discrete in normal models.
Well, look at the dominance of shameful 15.6 screens with 1920x1080 in the mass segment in 2022 (!) (and even 1368x768 for HP in the G9 line! Horror, shame!) instead of at least 2560x1600 with 144-165Hz/100% sRGB for a smooth picture without blurring in text scrolling in browsers and office not to mention videos and games.
Someone, explain to me what kind of moron/world villain came up with the idea of mass producing shame 45-46% NTSC panels, despite the fact that the cheapest smartphones from $90-100 have 70%+ NTSC...
Stupid greedy manufacturers (with warehouses littered with cheapest fhd panels) do not realize that an office laptop must have a high ppi screen (preferably from 220+ ppi) with at least 72% NTSC color reproduction for high-quality text and graphics. And it is in the office that 8k monitors (DP2.0 link only...) are urgently needed, finally giving 300+ ppi on working diagonals, giving a solid picture at the level of laser printers.
And to sell "gaming" laptops with slow fake "60Hz" (and fake "120Hz" that flooded the market), and even with shameful 45-46% NTSC, this is generally an absolute shame. The impudence with which they are trying to sell this pure garbage is simply amazing. Marketers still have enough cynicism and impudence to declare a "game" series with such shameful screens where the response exceeds 30ms(!) for G2G/B2W  and the color reproduction is such that photos from any smartphone and game are distorted beyond recognition...those, these shameful panels cannot even play YouTube videos at 60fps normally, because there is a constant disruption of synchronization due to the inability to have time to draw a picture with a frequency of 60fps due to the wild response of liquid crystals on slow panels. At the same time, flickering, glare (because there are no matte ones) AMOLED with a resource half that of IPS and a pentile (or no true RGB) structure - that is, a resolution lower than on IPS) we, consumers, also do not need. We need a matte fast response panels for 15.6-17.3 "4k with high-frequency PWM and a resource of 15k hours of backlighting. That's what the mass consumer needs. Moreover, the difference in retail price between a cheap fhd ips  panel and 4k ips is only 1.5 times, and in the price of a laptop less than 10% (and often these 10-16% - there is a free range of prices in the market between parasite sellers).
Once upon a time, Steve Jobs made an "earthquake" in the mobile phone market. But there is no new "Steve Jobs" to make the same high-quality "earthquake" in the market of laptops and their screens (Lenovo is the only one that is trying something with varying success - the rest are sadly trailing behind with their lines, so it has already captured 25% of the global laptop market).

When will a high-quality screen finally become standard in laptops - as a common thing, and not just in the folded series?

[heffeque]

Nobody cares about TB4.0. It's a niche feature. Even more niche are external GPUs. Even less people care about them.

It's a well known fact that Intel has done illegal maneuvers to prevent manufacturers from adding AMD in their laptops (and they've received fines for it), so it's not strange that AMD is still trailing behind.