Apple MacBook Pro 16 Core i9 gets consistently outperformed by the MSI P65 Core i9

[Redaktion]

After the horrid Core i9-8950HK performance of the 2018 MacBook Pro, Apple's implementation of the Core i9-9880H on its latest 16-inch MacBook Pro is a significant improvement. Nonetheless, the competing MSI P65 and the larger GE75 are able to run the same Core i9 CPU consistently faster.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-Core-i9-gets-consistently-outperformed-by-the-MSI-P65-Core-i9.447104.0.html

[kony]

The price of 2mm thinner device that "journalists" care so much about - and write how it fixes their lives when their laptop is 10mm instead of 12 or 15mm - is having underperforming crap with few ports.

And because Apple does it, then everybody else too, including Lenovo in Thinkpad line. I thought it was supposed to be a practical business laptop, not "LOOK HOW BUSINESS I AM, PEONS" laptop.

There's just no more devices for people who care about practicality most of all. Everybody needs to look "cool" nowadays.

Not that I have anything against existence of such laptops. I just wish we could buy a laptop we want and suits our needs, but if ALL laptops are like this, then what choice do we have except complaining

[rb]

I suggest you to retest with 10.15.2, at least I am seeing consistent 1456-1500 R15 scores on my 16" model, which is pretty much in line with your MSI P65 scores.

[Richard Ig]

The price of 2mm thinner device that "journalists" care so much about - and write how it fixes their lives when their laptop is 10mm instead of 12 or 15mm - is having underperforming crap with few ports.

And because Apple does it, then everybody else too, including Lenovo in Thinkpad line. I thought it was supposed to be a practical business laptop, not "LOOK HOW BUSINESS I AM, PEONS" laptop.

There's just no more devices for people who care about practicality most of all. Everybody needs to look "cool" nowadays.

Not that I have anything against existence of such laptops. I just wish we could buy a laptop we want and suits our needs, but if ALL laptops are like this, then what choice do we have except complaining

Razer Blade is perfectly okay and it is thin at what the Macbook pro used to be back in the day (slightly thicker)

I don't necessarily think issues are from it being thin. I think the issue is that no one has brought a revolutionary solution to the heat thats put out in thin laptops. Many companies maintain significantly lower laptop costs by utilizing less R&D costs. There has been countless vapor chamber cooling tricks in the past couple of years, yet here we are in 2019, air cooling.