Quote from: Corvaxus on Yesterday at 14:30:43This is a known feature that is not hidden which is not automatically turned on by default.

You must set your TV to a different standby mode and enable LG voice control.

When you do this, it very plainly tells you that it can listen with the screen off so you can control the TV with voice.

Failure of User Awareness, not some nefarious spyware.

Yea. I remember when I got my LG C2 and I read it was doing Automatic Content Recognition and and recording the voice. I kept saying No when the popup comes, but it came up multiple times each day. Then I instead turned off a setting and did not connect it to the internet. But now it asks me everyday to connect it to the internet,in the middle of me using the tv, not at startup. It is super annoying.

How many other tvs & phones & computers do this? This is crap! All this snooping for advertising purposes... Do we have ANY privacy left???

Quote from: Philip Lindsay on Yesterday at 12:55:05This is why I don't plug an ethernet cable into my TVs or connect them to wifi.

I just connect an Apple TV to the HDMI and use that.

No tracking to worry about.

Apple TV still tracks/spies on you.

It's heavy and the battery life is awfully. Sent it back after a couple of weeks use.

Quote from: Ken Settle on Yesterday at 15:05:07Unless something changes, in 10 years, those license agreements that we have to accept will take 10 hours or more to read (some of them already take more than an hour). I recently signed up with a website that had 10 agreements that overall took more than an hour to read. One click accepts them all.

You just hit at the heart of what I'm tackling head on. I also read the agreements, as well as look under the hood of our apps, and it's a disgrace how poorly we are treated when we aren't at the negotiating table. No business would ever accept these terms and nor allow spyware on their devices.

I'm sick of this crap. I have ideas on how to change the dynamic and am building a negotiating bloc of people who want the same. My company is called My Data Union, PBC. Reach out if you're interested.