Here is another video with bad 1% FPS lows of Panther Lake's Arc B390: youtu.be/A_jHa0d1aFA?t=319 (YT/Just Josh: "Intel's New Integrated GPU vs 10 Popular Games (Shockingly Playable)")

Quote from: youtu.be/A_jHa0d1aFA?t=319..we wouldn't recommend it. The 1% lows and .1% lows are just too rough.

Quote from: RobinLight on Yesterday at 15:16:48das OLED Display hauptsächlich die Laufzeit nach unten zieht!

Auch richtig. Wenn die Hersteller ihre Energiefresser zuerst in den Markt drücken, kommen eben bescheidene Laufzeiten raus.

Dell Pro 13 Premium, 268V 60Wh@24:00, wäre 100Wh@40:00
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Here is another with bad 1% FPS lows in Panther Lake's Arc B390: youtu.be/A_jHa0d1aFA?t=319 (YT/Just Josh: "Intel's New Integrated GPU vs 10 Popular Games (Shockingly Playable)")

Quote from: youtu.be/A_jHa0d1aFA?t=319..we wouldn't recommend it. The 1% lows and .1% lows are just too rough.

YouTube/Just Josh measured bad 1% FPS lows of all Arc B390 laptops (youtu.be/jduWl1J_4lQ?t=630). This is disappointing and I hope it can be fixed.

QuotePWM flickering

I wonder if the 120 Hz (same as display' 120 Hz refresh rate), 14%, PWM amplitude is going to be an eye-strain issue.

Nur 8 CUs für die Desktop APU ... da hat AMD seine Kunden wieder ordentlich verarscht. Insbesondere auch diejenigen Leute, die ständig behaupten dass sie soviel besser dran sind, weil der Sockel langlebiger ist als bei Intel. Aber so bringt der langlebige Sockel auch nichts mehr. Am meisten bringen würde der was bei APU-Upgrades, wegen dem Fokus auf die iGPU. Für reine CPU-Upgrades kaum.

Zeigt mal wieder man kann den Konzernen nicht trauen. Egal ob AMD oder Intel. Beiden fällt immer wieder was ein, womit sie uns (Kunden) reinscheissen können ...

For those who still don't know: Ryzen AI 400 is just a rename of Ryzen AI 300.

Quote from: Prassel on Yesterday at 11:51:13So it shows that AMD, like Intel, is "allergic" to desktop APUs ...

Their goodwill for desktop APUs only goes as far as approximately GTX 1050 Ti graphics power.

Quote from: captainobvious on Yesterday at 13:09:31Very true, neither company is interested in selling top iGPU to customers.

Strix Halo' iGPU has access to 256 GB/s memory due to its 256-bit RAM access and its performance is approx on the level of a 4060 Laptop. 256 GB/s equals to quad-channel (4 * 64-bit per RAM channel) in the desktop. In desktop (if we define the word "desktop" as anything that looks like a (big) desktop tower), only the (entry level) Threadripper platform offers quad-channel.

So, there's simply not enough bandwidth.

PS: Panther Lake's Arc B390 iGPU is connected to 128-bit (dual-channel) memory running at LPDDR5X-9600 MT/s, but it has bad 1% FPS lows (YT/Just Josh: ExpertBook Ultra Panther Lake youtu.be/jduWl1J_4lQ?t=630). I wonder what is up with that and if it's caused by the LPDDR5X' high latency when running it at 9600 MT/s. Now I wonder if Strix Halo also has bad 1% FPS lows issue.