davidm, this is a non-AI specific business workstation laptop: If it had the Strix Halo chip (a 256-bit chip), the price would be (much?) higher, but I agree, this is maybe a missed opportunity, if the price wouldn't be much higher, but also this is not "ThinkPad P16s Gen 4 AI" edition, if it was and didn't have the Strix Halo APU chip, then I'd complain, too. (You are correct, Strix Halo would be over 2x the speed for LLMs: This is a classic 128-bit memory bus width, like over 90% out there, running at 5600 MT/s, if this was Strix Halo, it would be 2.85 times faster (2*8000/5600). But to reach 8000 MT/s, the RAM would be soldered, if no CAMM2 / LPCAMM2 would be used. CAMM2 / LPCAMM2 isn't exactly new so hopefully soon.
If people complain so much that the GPU is weak, then maybe Strix Halo is a missed opportunity, but again, it depends on the price, but for anything other than LLM inferencing, where an AMD GPU works, for finetuning, etc. a NVIDIA GPU would be needed/highly recommended (I think AMD has no real CUDA replacement so far).

What worries people is how much these Pathetic Lake processors will cost.
GorgonPoint isn't an architectural change; it's still RDNA 3.5 on steroids.
The 4Xe Pathetic Lake will cost around €1,100-€1,500.
And the 12Xe Pathetic Lake around €1,600-€2,000. Let me explain:
International media confirm that the Pathetic Lake will increase in price by 20-30% due to:

👉The performance improvements (>50% in graphics and CPU vs. Lunar Lake)

👉The excuse of the 18A process and the iGPU manufactured by TSMC at 3nm

👉The shortage because Intel's foundries haven't yet surpassed the 70%
👉Panter Lake is a 9-10 month transition to Nova Lake, which is its future.

All reasonable reasons to RAISE THE PRICE; but not so much Intel, calm down Intel because this will provoke the opposite: REJECTION and the loss of thousands of FANS, who will end up disappointed.

👉Everything I've read about Nova Lake is very good, but we'll still have to wait a year and a half.

Regarding how both Panther Lake and GorgonPoint will perform, we won't know until we see them in a month; everything we're talking about is speculation, and HERE IT WILL BE THE PRICE THAT TIPS THE SCALES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

Anyway, we don't know anything about GorgonPoint, and AMD always has an ace up its sleeve. We'll see what surprises us.

Intel's foundries are not starting up with the 18A and very few laptops will be seen, coupled with the rise in RAM prices.

"the device does get rather loud, and it runs pretty hot. Additionally, the GPU performance is weak for a workstation"

Thank you for a great summary and saving my time. Stopped reading here.

I care. My phone is 2.5 yo. I was planning to buy a new one next year because I've experienced with previous phones problems between the 3rd and 4th year. So I have to do a choice, replace now a phone which is fine or take the risk to wait 2 years (with no guarantee that the situation will be better).

Buying next year is not an option : the price of used phones / previous gen phones will go up due to a higher demand. The cheapest the phone, the higher the impact on price will be.

Lustiger Artikel. Wüsste nicht, wo Samsung oder Apple einen SD Slot anbieten. Wo aber bereits das 7er Xiaomi beide erwähnten Mitbewerber um Welten schlägt, ist die WLAN Konnektivität und Reichweite. Wo Samsung immer wieder abbricht, bleibt das Xiaomi stabil. Wo das iPad schon gar kein WLAN mehr empfängt sind beim Xiaomi noch drei Punkte. Die Geschwindigkeit des Xiaomi schlägt beide in der Rechenleistung um Längen. Macht doch mal den Rest, wie lange bei Chesd.com eine Analyse dauert.
Frage dazu, wer und warum braucht man beim Tablet ein GPS? Dafür habe ich mein Google Pixel, ein Garmin Navi und eine Garmin Fenix.