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Title: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Redaktion on January 27, 2025, 18:57:59
OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, initially planned to develop artificial intelligence on an open-source basis. However, no source code for current OpenAI models has been made available thus far. DeepSeek from China takes a completely different approach and offers DeepSeek-R1 under the MIT license. Supposedly, this new AI model is even on par with ChatGPT.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/China-s-free-open-source-AI-DeepSeek-is-a-serious-threat-to-OpenAI-s-ChatGPT-and-other-AI-models.953079.0.html
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: LifePo7 on January 27, 2025, 21:17:49
This is far inferior to chatGPT outside the scope of these weak tests that they train the AI to excel at
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Jonathan Swift on January 27, 2025, 22:15:40
Quote from: LifePo7 on January 27, 2025, 21:17:49This is far inferior to chatGPT outside the scope of these weak tests that they train the AI to excel at
There's a big difference to factor in: this company is achieving some relatively good-enough genAI on a fraction of the resources and budgets.

Western companies are sinking billions of dollars/euros and using insane amounts of power into something that is overhyped and that has yet to turn a profit (it's all promises and projections) - hence the stock market panic, even if DeepSeek is inferior to ChatGPT.
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Bizarro_NikoB on January 27, 2025, 22:36:59
Quote from: Jonathan Swift on January 27, 2025, 22:15:40
Quote from: LifePo7 on January 27, 2025, 21:17:49This is far inferior to chatGPT outside the scope of these weak tests that they train the AI to excel at
There's a big difference to factor in: this company is achieving some relatively good-enough genAI on a fraction of the resources and budgets.

Western companies are sinking billions of dollars/euros and using insane amounts of power into something that is overhyped and that has yet to turn a profit (it's all promises and projections) - hence the stock market panic, even if DeepSeek is inferior to ChatGPT.

I agree. I've always thought the AI craze is just another astroturfed fad being forced on everyone by a man (Sam Altman) seeking relevance and fortune by stealing other's copyrighted material without compensation. What a scumbag.
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Yarik on January 27, 2025, 23:12:24
And it is cheaper because Chinese KGB will read my prompts and spy on my PC?
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Benji on January 28, 2025, 00:23:13
Quote from: LifePo7 on January 27, 2025, 21:17:49This is far inferior to chatGPT outside the scope of these weak tests that they train the AI to excel at
Nah. It's better. Claude 3.5 is still better than deepseek in some cases, but deepseek has impressed me quite a bit.

I for one welcome our new chinese overlords. Well, don't really welcome them but it's not like we have much of a choice. I'd rather work under them than under the incestuous, corrupt cliques from California.
Title: Re: China's free open-source AI DeepSeek is a serious threat to OpenAI's ChatGPT and other AI models
Post by: Swizzy on January 28, 2025, 10:23:02
Ask it about Tiananmen Square.