While the U.S. tech industry is projected to reach $537 billion in revenue in 2025, proposed tariff policies could significantly impact consumer spending, potentially reducing tech purchases by up to $143 billion.https://www.notebookcheck.net/Trump-tariff-plan-could-trigger-68-percent-drop-in-U-S-laptop-and-tablet-sales.943829.0.html
"proposed tariff policies could significantly impact consumer spending"
Looooong over due!!!
"with laptop and tablet sales possibly sinking by as much as 68 percent, gaming consoles taking a 58 percent tumble, and smartphone purchases dropping by 37 percent"
A serious question - have the MSM, and its fear-mongers, faded to sleep for the last 4-years or so?! Seriously.
Most of these segments, if not all, has increased their prices to over 50%, during a global recession (that the Biden Admin. still fails to admit to this day) hundreds-of-thousands of job losses, ect. but companies like NVIDIA, AMD, ect. didn't care.
In fact, NVIDIA increased their prices (from the GTX 1080) by over 65% - a company that was valued ~300/400B market cap that surged up to 4 trillion.
How did that happen, huh? Because NVIDIA, ect. cared about the market (consumers) and lowered its prices? HECK NO!!!
But, the consumer should care what happens to these awful greedy companies because these sick companies WILL have trouble soon trying to shift their already super inflated products?! 😏
Clearly, the MSM, and others, do not understand the MAJORITY that well.
Psst...
Trump won because the majority of consumers are tired of these companies and the market needs a super huge reset... ASAP!!!
"Trump won because the majority of consumers are tired of these companies and the market needs a super huge reset"
Sorry, but I do not buy your tale. Simply speaking, Trump won because too many simple-minded voters liked "America first!". They would not even think as far as tariffs until they will wake up and realise - not what they have voted for - but that they cannot pay the allegedly even greedier computer manufacturers. Then Trump, the saviour, will rescue them by cutting taxes. Maybe. Or distract them by invading Panama and Greenland.
Quote from: RobertJasiek on January 08, 2025, 19:33:54"Trump won because the majority of consumers are tired of these companies and the market needs a super huge reset"
Sorry, but I do not buy your tale.
Bahahaha!!!
So... who cares what you... uhm... "buy".
1/20 is still coming! 😂
My logic is, if sales drop, then prices drop (not in USA). So, good news for everyone (not in USA)?
Hurray! I never plan to buy another craptop powered by Intel/AMD anyways. 2025 and beyond are the years of Xiaomi and Huawei self-developed/self-design laptop PC arm chips!
Quote from: Hunter2020 on January 08, 2025, 20:33:382025 and beyond are the years of Xiaomi and Huawei self-developed/self-design laptop PC arm chips!
lol, Xiaomi and Huawei will be banned outright. Unless you're not in USA, then yes, you could buy them.
Quote from: TruthIsThere on January 08, 2025, 18:41:31"proposed tariff policies could significantly impact consumer spending"
Looooong over due!!!
"with laptop and tablet sales possibly sinking by as much as 68 percent, gaming consoles taking a 58 percent tumble, and smartphone purchases dropping by 37 percent"
A serious question - have the MSM, and its fear-mongers, faded to sleep for the last 4-years or so?! Seriously.
Most of these segments, if not all, has increased their prices to over 50%, during a global recession (that the Biden Admin. still fails to admit to this day) hundreds-of-thousands of job losses, ect. but companies like NVIDIA, AMD, ect. didn't care.
In fact, NVIDIA increased their prices (from the GTX 1080) by over 65% - a company that was valued ~300/400B market cap that surged up to 4 trillion.
How did that happen, huh? Because NVIDIA, ect. cared about the market (consumers) and lowered its prices? HECK NO!!!
But, the consumer should care what happens to these awful greedy companies because these sick companies WILL have trouble soon trying to shift their already super inflated products?! 😏
Clearly, the MSM, and others, do not understand the MAJORITY that well.
Psst...
Trump won because the majority of consumers are tired of these companies and the market needs a super huge reset... ASAP!!!
Big tech businesses will for sure slap prices... Probably Tesla will lead the way?
And be sure, Tesla is a tech company, thus insane market valuation.
Just waiting with popcorn to watch live the love story Trump-Musk.
Funny stuff...
Least you seem to forget...
Nvidia is mostly funded by interest in "AI" and not consumer products.
It is un-American to NOT profit as much as possible - of COURSE these companies squeeze as much profit out of their products as the market can bear!!! It is Capitalism101 and the American Way!!
While all the 'greedy American Companies' were outsourcing the majority of their jobs to China and reaping the profits a smaller and smaller number of products are being made INSIDE the USA.
So when the new administration puts import tariffs on all these goods that Americans purchase guess what? The CONSUMERS will be paying for the tariffs!! (gee, that is what everyone voted for!!)
If this is left to play out for enough years maybe just maybe some American companies will start making products INSIDE the USA, however in the mean time consumers are going to be paying higher prices.
Can you say "inflation"? I knew you could. :)
What I call - 'ill companies' attack on the market/consumers - IS NOT JUST AN US company GREED campaign for the last few years.
Samsung, a Korean company, the ring leader of inflation, is ON RECORD stating that it were increasing its DRAM prices due to the claim that then it "lost revenue due to post-covid low prices."
Sony, a Japanese company, has raised the price of the PS5/PS5 ProNOUN, from the PS4 (299/349/399), waaaay over 200%.
TSMC, a Taiwanese company, has literally has the market at hostage by increasing its prices to just unbelievable numbers (and this company needs a reality Trump's Tariff/Tax the most than others... FAST)
Huawei, a Chinese company, releases 1000+ stacks phones (with very cheap components/hardware) that has no TRUE OS for global delivery and has released phones that cost up to 4000 stacks just for the screen(s) be destroyed by just opening it... on & on, folks!!!
So, this clearly shows that this is NOT just an American greedy sickness, its global, like it or not.
WISE consumers will not be affected by Trump's tariffs, only the weak/impatient/impulse buyers and that is what they deserve and it's looong over due.
Quote from: TruthIsThere on January 09, 2025, 01:17:08just for the screen(s) be destroyed by just opening it
such BS. Samsung phones explode, Pixels are riddled with software bugs on EVERY release and don't even get me started on iPhones (bendgate, batterygate, you're holding it wrong, iOS11-18 filled with securities vulnerabilities and malware infested Apple ads trying to upsell you with every Apple services, millions of forum posts about iPhone/ipad hardware and software failure every single year, etc.). absolutely zero brand has a perfect track record but especially western brands or western ally brands are truly the most dogshit quality control ever seen in mankind. that's why you NEVER see a product "made in America" and if it is just throw it right in the trash.
Quote from: Huawei&China#1 on January 09, 2025, 07:32:38Quote from: TruthIsThere on January 09, 2025, 01:17:08just for the screen(s) be destroyed by just opening it
Quotesuch BS. Samsung phones explode, Pixels are riddled with software bugs on EVERY release and don't even get me started on iPhones (bendgate, batterygate, you're holding it wrong, iOS11-18 filled with securities vulnerabilities and malware infested Apple ads trying to upsell you with every Apple services, millions of forum posts about iPhone/ipad hardware and software failure every single year, etc.). absolutely zero brand has a perfect track record but especially western brands or western ally brands are truly the most dogshit quality control ever seen in mankind. that's why you NEVER see a product "made in America" and if it is just throw it right in the trash.
Bahahaha!!!
I bet your *fake news* argument will make-up some excuse, even after watching these HORROR VIDEOS with oodles of users' complaining about Huawei and the extremely CHEAP PARTS it uses and FAILED in-house testing with a super outrageous so-called "premium" price tag, to why these REAL-LIFE EXPERIENCES are just... uhm... normal, huh?! 😏
C'mon, now. You made this too easy for me.
Bahahaha!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ibXU-QvPgk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLE7wSHWng
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3or7M8PWII
Trump is a demagogue promising "Great America" but his sinister real agenda is different. He drives USA and the puppet states that follow US to a pre-globalized era where markets were protected by borders and market expansion was only possible through military invasion.
This "nation based markets" was what cultivated ultra-nationalism and fascism in the 20th century, and brought us two world wars. But this is exactly what he is betting on:
Since USA can not compete any longer with China on economic terms he wants to bring in the military and take over the lost US dominance by military force putting on the line the lives of billions of people globally.
I must be lucky. The only hardware I have had fail is an OCZ SSD, and that was in the early days of SSDs, so they can be forgiven.
No other piece of technology from any company has really failed me otherwise. Have used Dell, HP, Acer, Pixels, OnePlus, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple(ick, hated the environment,) etc.
Quote from: indy on January 16, 2025, 04:36:21I must be lucky. The only hardware I have had fail
Although OT, this is an interesting topic. You are lucky indeed! My computer-related hardware failures (other than old batteries) since 1983:
- home PC bought 1986, after a few years starving too thin electric connections below the keys of the keyboard *
- early notebook bought 1990, after a few years broken hinges *
- Compaq notebook bought 1995, after a few years broken hinges *
- DIY desktop built 2009, after 9.5 years dying mainboard
- router in the 2000s, after several years died from excess electricity due to a nearby lightning strike
- original Apple USB-lightning cable bought with iPad in 2015, after ca. 5 years broke from being built by far too thin near the plug *
- Fujitsu-Siemens keyboard bought in the 2010s set battery being replaced on fire (Luckily only the battery!) due to too tightly built electric connections in the battery compartment and a missing power button
- Epson inkjet printer, after ca. 10 years of usage, died in 2023 from leaking ink (What a mess!)
* are cases of planned obsolescence, excessively greedy cost savings or great incompetence. The keyboard fire was a consequence of incompetence. Inkjet printers have thin ink cables and therefore my printer missed protection on the bottom to prevent greater damage from any leakage. That mainboards or their components do not have eternal life is expected. Lightning cannot be avoided, although partial overvoltage protection might be installed.
It angers me that many manufacturers have not learnt or continue planned obsolescence for easy, basic components, such as hinges and cables.