Microsoft has officially announced its intent to move security measures out of the kernel, following the Crowdstrike disaster a few short months ago. The removal of kernel access for security solutions would likely revolutionise running Windows games on the Steam Deck and other Linux systems. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-paves-the-way-for-Linux-gaming-success-with-plan-that-would-kill-kernel-level-anti-cheat.888345.0.html
Please don't do this. Literally the only thing stopping me from moving / switching to steamOS and Linux is online multiplayer support. I already don't use MS Office and use Google docs instead. If this happens, what exactly am I going to use / need windows for? Everything else works far better on *nix.
Why would you mind using Linux if everything there works better?
You're begging Microsoft to keep things artificially broken on Linux for what reason exactly?
If you still want to stay on Windows, cool, but you don't make sense, sorry
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The last windows I used was 95, Once I found out about Linux I never went back!
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! Let's go microsoft! Theres no reason anti cheats or any software needs direct kernal access. Especially with how easy it is for third parties to compromise the anti cheat itself and use it as a entry vector into the user's system. Nevermind the damage the anti cheat itself can do if it bugs out, Gameguard being the most dangerous of all. As far as I am concerned MS should have done this decades ago.
Yep...part of the reason why I don't play Valorant. Wayyy too invasive and leaving it up to a gaming company to make sure the SW is safe.
Crowdstrike got the right regulators looking at how invasive 3rd party software with kernel level access is and how destructive it is when misused. Microsoft is only doing this to cover themselves because they are now liable after Crowdstrike demostrated the destructive power of kernel level remote access.
Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?
Quote from: Dishybat on September 15, 2024, 10:49:39Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?
Educate yourself you dumb phony faggot: wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
Anyone saying this is bad and that a corpo uses the kernel drivers for games which can be reversed by hackers to be used elsewhere like they did with the Genshin impact one can suck my kernel cock and seethe.
considering Valorant had a bug that hard-killed your network connection because the anti-cheat just spammed the s*** out of it i'd probably worry about that more than it being "invasive"
it has too much access and it's proven that it can't handle it
Too little, too late, Microsoft.
I've now tasted Linux, and the next time I do a complete backup on my computer to get all my music in order, I'm ditching Windows for good.
I'm sick of dealing with the bloatware each time you do a fresh install and the fact that Microsoft keeps wanting to add ways to violate people's privacy (*cough cough COPILOT*).
Kernel-level access should've NEVER been given to programs, and while that sounds rather ignorant, you all now got to witness WHY. And I'd of thought we would've put a stop to this crap after the Sony rootkit debacle (remember that one? It was the DRM for CDs at the time...)
Quote from: Dishybat on September 15, 2024, 10:49:39Y'all are soft cheating in games. It's beyond corny. You just are a bozo. The I don't play valorant cuz it's invasive? What you got cp on your computer you maggot ?
Lmao, ignorance at its finest. It's funny that you go to the worst possible extreme because someone mentions that they'd rather not have what amounts to a root kit installed to their system just to play that one game.
There are people who could care less that Valorant is a good game, we aren't ever playing it because we don't EVER want a root kit to touch our system. It happened back in the 90s/ early 00s each time we ripped a Sony CD, and ended up teaching Sony that lesson. Who else we gotta teach via a lawsuit?? Apparently you.
Why not implement "server side" detection, similar to "EA fair play"? By tracking a user's game performance metrics and comparing them across the network of players, players with metrics outside the average can be further investigated / actioned.. This obviously wouldn't work if all a majority of the players were cheaters.. :D
FYI: the blog post this article links to is nothing more than a series of public relations wordsmithing with regards to some Windows enterprise security "summit" that focuses specifically on endpoint detection and response (EDR) solutions.
please don't read up on nonsense like this.
Server Side Checks are too hard or too Performance expensive ig. I Developed many Cheats over the Last years you can Bypass every Client Side Anti-Cheat even Riot vanguard which you can actually Just replace with a custom Version lmao
Quote from: Joerct on September 15, 2024, 17:00:06Too little, too late, Microsoft.
I've now tasted Linux, and the next time I do a complete backup on my computer to get all my music in order, I'm ditching Windows for good.
I'm sick of dealing with the bloatware each time you do a fresh install and the fact that Microsoft keeps wanting to add ways to violate people's privacy (*cough cough COPILOT*).
Kernel-level access should've NEVER been given to programs, and while that sounds rather ignorant, you all now got to witness WHY. And I'd of thought we would've put a stop to this crap after the Sony rootkit debacle (remember that one? It was the DRM for CDs at the time...)
lmao you sound like it's not possible to remove all that bloatware and tracking in a minute after installing. Learn to code dumbo
Quote from: XD on September 16, 2024, 09:25:04lmao you sound like it's not possible to remove all that bloatware and tracking in a minute after installing
It's not
Quote from: mdongwe on September 16, 2024, 09:31:47Quote from: XD on September 16, 2024, 09:25:04lmao you sound like it's not possible to remove all that bloatware and tracking in a minute after installing
It's not
There's literally a script (you know, the one Linux users like you would love running on the terminal :) ) that you can run to get rid of all the bloatware.
Plus, there's also Windows 10 IoT if you want a clean Windows experience. Sounds to me like you are just a fanboy who can't do its homework.
Quote from: astolfo on September 16, 2024, 16:01:00There's literally a script (you know, the one Linux users like you would love running on the terminal :) ) that you can run to get rid of all the bloatware.
a) not all bloatware
b) the more you remove the more bugs you will have with your software later
c) author of that script says he takes no responsibility for what it does
d) removing crap like Windows Defender and Update is hacky and it will be constantly trying to re-enable itself in the future
Quote from: astolfo on September 16, 2024, 16:01:00there's also Windows 10 IoT if you want a clean Windows experience
Very funny
Quote from: astolfo on September 16, 2024, 16:01:00Sounds to me like you are just a fanboy who can't do its homework.
Very funny
Removing kernel anti cheat will only cause problems in video games. Rampant cheating. Until a whole new solution can be made using AI to track players behavior, there is no reason to remove kernel level anti cheat. Anyone who says it's some kind of problem does not understand the situation. I would welcome a new solution to replace the current systems, of course, but until they are made and properly tested, any game would die within weeks of removal of their anti cheats.
you really should learn how to read before posting utter fabrications. Literally nothing in this article is factual represenation.
Maybe next time, if you don't actually understand what's being discussed, don't write about it.
How about you do not spread misinformation? What even is this hot garbage of an article, everything here is written by hopes and rainbows, because for sure it isn't actually sourced correctly. You even got youtubers tricked by this article and now there more than 600k+ views on this fabrication at the time I posted this comment. Just goes to show how far below the average of the IQ median is the average youtube content creator (looking at you Low Level Learning) that they don't even ensure the article they base their entire video on is itself actually source properly. And don't get me started on all the karma farmers on reddit too. Extremely disappointed, I expected better from a site of this caliber. Do better.