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Title: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: Redaktion on March 21, 2023, 23:00:58
After we already tested the ThinkPad T14 G3 with the AMD processor, we now take a look at the version with an Intel Core i7-1260P and dedicated GeForce MX550. Which configuration offers a higher performance and longer battery life? And is the GeForce GPU worthwhile compared to the fast Radeon 680M iGPU?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14-G3-review-Business-laptop-is-worse-with-Intel-and-Nvidia.702431.0.html
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: FIXITplease on March 22, 2023, 02:22:24
I think there is a problem with the screen "62.6 ms G to G " - is it realy IPS? - this nubter is too high - way too high
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: Neenyah on March 23, 2023, 12:42:19
@FIXITplease, this is Lenovo and they are specialized in trolling with ThinkPads where they equip some of the crappiest existing IPS panels that basically no one else puts in their laptops, especially not in their premier lines.

Lenovo is doing that consistently for years at this point even in the most expensive products like their X1 line which is why I intentionally went with a pretty much flawlesse WQHD panel in my X1 Carbon instead of FHD that's plagues with ghosting and similarly slow gray to gray times.

And, unfortunately, it seem that exactly that is pretty much Lenovo's goal - to force people pay premium price for sh*t panels and if they don't like those screens there is always far better and more expensive panel to choose. Let's skip entry-level (ehm, cheap) ThinkPad series such as E and L and focus on T/Ts because here is T in question:

 
It's not limited to just 14" screens because use that same in all other sizes, like with this 15.6" P15v G2 as example:

 
I can keep just listing here but you get my point; those are all IPS screens and they are all crap. Lenovo's panel lottery is just making at even worse than it is. So yeah, it's either their rare talent or bad luck to just stumble upon the worst of the worst panels and then go "Oh man, this slow panel with 51% sRGB is exactly what our business customers want and need, they will gladly pay 2000€ for such impressive experience!!1" or they do that intentionally to earn 25-50% more for same models with better panels. I'm 99.99% sure it's the latter.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: Neenyah on March 23, 2023, 12:45:38
Sorry for typos like "flawlesse", "plagues" and such, typing from phone is sometimes hell :(
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: Neenyah on March 23, 2023, 13:04:42
Oh yeah, I completely forgot - not that long ago, in May 2020 to be precise, they launched their X13 Gen 1 line (successor of X390, X280, X270...) with a 250 nits 1366x768 TN panel :D (psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X13_Gen_1_Intel)
 
Being TN it was very fast but yeah but that resolution (which is fine for 11.6-12.5", not for anything higher) with poor colour coverage (45% NTSC) and bad viewing angles was a hell to use. Naturally they did the same with T14 and many other models. In 2021 they finally got rid of it and made 1920x1080 to be the lowest you can go, 1920x1200 these days with 16:10 screens. But yeah, resolution is fine but panels are still intriguingly slow...
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: NikoB on March 23, 2023, 16:46:37
The population lags behind in its development from the NTP for decades, compared with the experts. If there is no one on the market to kick the whole industry, squalor can be sold for a very long time for inadequate money, especially if the crowd in the Western world gets this money for free (taking into account real labor productivity).

Only those who earn every penny by real labor and know the true value of money will make reasonable claims to goods.

Read at least this review on the furniture market (theassemblync.com/business/high-point-furniture/)
Quote...The most likely outcome is an industry that continues its current direction, offering more and more services for the wealthy and cheap, too often terrible goods for everyone else...

 - what the greed of the capitalists and the stupidity of the crowd brought to... Already a typical situation for any goods. There, the author literally repeats after me what I wrote more than once - soon there will be nothing left for the destroyed "middle class" who earns with intelligence and labor. Only the very rich and 90-95% of the poor on the planet will remain.
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: Charinet Deep Impact on March 31, 2023, 06:27:37
The memory copy benchmark is based on 16GB on-board single channel. Is it possible to have result with dual channel (fitted with another 32GB module)?
Title: Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3 review - Business laptop is worse with Intel and Nvidia
Post by: NikoB on March 31, 2023, 19:08:00
Quote from: Charinet Deep Impact on March 31, 2023, 06:27:37The memory copy benchmark is based on 16GB on-board single channel. Is it possible to have result with dual channel (fitted with another 32GB module)?
Just multiply the result obtained in the review by 2.