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English => News => Topic started by: Redaktion on September 02, 2022, 21:39:12

Title: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C respectively as the Core i9-13900K runs comparatively cooler
Post by: Redaktion on September 02, 2022, 21:39:12
AMD Zen 4 processors are slated to bring incredible performance gains over the Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 parts. But, if a series of recent leaks are accurate, the Ryzen 7000 CPUs become meltingly hot when pushed. On the other hand, Raptor Lake chips are allegedly free from thermal troubles compared to their Zen 4 rivals.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X-and-Ryzen-5-7600X-thermals-are-reportedly-out-of-control-at-95-C-and-90-C-respectively-as-the-Core-i9-13900K-runs-comparatively-cooler.645174.0.html
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: yattoz on September 03, 2022, 11:51:45
Your title seems unfairly depreciative for Ryzen 7000. Knowing it's a brand new platform, we can assume it will have its fair share of bugs to be fixed and optimizations to be made on motherboards BIOS. It seems pretty obvious to me that the manufacturer would see the issue quite fast and push an update (maybe even before launch for their retail units, or reasonably soon after launch).

At the end of the day, I have to admit that I'm rather impressed by Ryzen 7000, knowing that tweaking some settings can allow it to run at 5GHz and still eat up just around 65W. That's a surprisingly good perf-per-watt ratio.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: havefun on September 03, 2022, 15:48:01
Intel paid rumors and now they hit the fan...
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Davion on September 03, 2022, 17:29:07
This sounds like Intel planting bs via Twitter shills on a competitor
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Wilbert on September 03, 2022, 17:36:49
I thought the TDP was 170Watts so is it heating up when it gets overclocked? Sounds more like a board issue supply to much voltage to me.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Anonymous 3576334677 on September 03, 2022, 17:41:41
Temperatures are meaningless without the specs of the cooling solution.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95
Post by: James Oo on September 03, 2022, 19:23:22
Doesn't 100% electrical energy consumed by CPU turn into into thermal energy?

So then, the differences of temperature can come from: the cooling solution, thermal transfer resistance, and smaller surface area between cooling solution and the CPU.

If they use different ones for the first, we should all abandon this news site.  If the second, id love a full breakdown of this.  If the third, I'd be disapp this wasn't brought up in the article
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Xp on September 03, 2022, 20:07:35
Anybody with any  Tech knowledge can see right through the bullshit of this article this is pure Intel  Propaganda
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Chris Wiedmaier on September 03, 2022, 22:33:27
Intel definitely paid you to post this article lol. Clearly when voltages are adjusted to spec the temps are significantly cut. You should have lead with that not hide it in a brief line toward the end of the article.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: DelonghisCawk on September 04, 2022, 01:26:24
I mean... when you leave the cooler off this happens. Lol this is total bull.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Xs on September 04, 2022, 05:22:05
This was expected. With denser N5 node +80% then N7. And increased TDP. We are looking 2x power/mm^2. Also IHS is smaller than am4.
I think IHS is bottleneck here not the cpu coolers. Intel has more power draw but much bigger die , and bigger IHS. Some exotic thermal paste should help a lot. Still amd should have made IHS bigger than am4. But they did opposite for cooler compatibility. and now those coolers are useless.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: JoePrime on September 04, 2022, 10:58:07
This is so fake, again new Intels propaganda.

Stop posting that type of bullshit 😂
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Team Red on September 04, 2022, 14:34:55
Since it's been explained enough I'll just say this.


You a shill.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: MrIntel on September 04, 2022, 18:56:37
Hi,

Where would you like us to post the brown bag full of cash?

Thanks,
Intel HQ
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Phragon on September 05, 2022, 13:28:21
Something else that needs to be considered is that most of these tests are done on engineering samples, not the final CPU.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Sedat on September 05, 2022, 20:14:57
This is absolutely meaningless. You can make intel 4004 to run significantly hotter compared to a modern CPU - just don't put any cooler on it. What coolers did you use? That's the most important thing to mention even if you use just box coolers (which probably aren't a thing anymore for both parties). Utter BS
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: HoD on September 05, 2022, 21:19:17
Like always was with AMD, they always must be downvolted. Nothing new, they just can't do normal cpus.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Marvin on September 05, 2022, 23:30:17
You know... Intel bribing people to fake benchmarks/sabotage to make the competition look bad is already a wildly known thing, intel likes to do. So why give a damn to post these 'rumors' you heard about intel being X degrees cooler and running Y percent faster? These are MOST probably the result of intel planting bullshit by bribing people (maybe they even bribed you?) Because looking at the scalability and efficiency of previous ryzen generations, there is absolutely NO way AMD could throw all that out of the window just because of a "new platform". By this point you are just kidding yourself. And btw: also looking at intels last few generations: i dont see them REALISTICALLY even pull EQUAL let alone overtake AMD for the next 5 to 10 years. The problem is more within companys policy within intel. They need WAY longer to fix that cheesy, illegal, cheating b.s. within to ever become relevant again.

M.f.g: an IT technician
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Tiki on September 07, 2022, 02:04:23
This article is brought to you by Intel's ministry of truth


Intel's ministry of truth - "Don't worry about the facts, we're still on top. Trust us"
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: ByteTera on September 07, 2022, 04:43:16
didnt read this article yet but as far as i can tell from the comments this is just shillery and its not an fx9590be situation again
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: AdamGs on September 07, 2022, 05:06:47
Everyone knows this is a bullshit article. I don't favor AMD over Intel. But there's no way in hell the 7000 desktop series will operate at 90°+ under normal circumstances. You can't really expect us to believe that, can you?
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Dopamine on September 07, 2022, 16:04:13
Thanks for this blatant shill article. Going to remove this s*** website from my recommended sources list. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: MikeK on September 08, 2022, 05:05:35
Is it me or does tis article now show positive results for the potential of AMD's chips. Everyone here is like INTEL SHILL. It's literally the opposite to my eyes, lol. First off it's engineering sample. So it means nothing a this time. Launch could still run hot, but clearly there is already a fix. Which is what we have been doing on Gpus and Cpus for well over 5 years already. What is peoples malfunction. OH never mind why ask. We live in a clown shoe.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Tnep on September 09, 2022, 05:01:42
Let me get this straight. The 7950x at 230w produces more heat than the 13900k at 270w. That's not how that works. There is a direct correlation between power consumption and heat, most 240mm aios are rated for between 240 and 350w, with 280s being in the 300-400 range and 360s going all the way up to 500w. If someone was getting 90c on a cpu with a max power draw of 230w using a 360mm aio then they did a s*** job mounting it.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Realestate on September 10, 2022, 08:20:14
R3 7600x with 360mm AIO hits 90C when using Boost mode because Zen 4 has pitiful IPC gains. Misleading marketing at its finest. Avoid at all cost!
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Gerrard on September 12, 2022, 01:35:07
Baseless FUD. The product would be an unmitigated disaster if it cannot be cooled with even an AIO. Only a naive fool would believe AMD would launch something like that. You will be seeing these chips air cooled in prebuilts like every other generation of chips before. AMD's OEM partners would not have it any other way and they know it.
Title: Re: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Ryzen 5 7600X thermals are reportedly out of control at 95 C and 90 C resp
Post by: Michael Nager on September 16, 2022, 12:18:41
What a bloody scrub.

Buidzoid tried to get near to my CB R20 score on identical hardware to mine and although his room temp was at least 10 degrees Celsius lower than mine (so he has a 10 degree head start in temps), giving it his best shot his score was lower than mine, but his 5950X CPU temp was OVER 100 DEGREES CELSIUS for a single benchmark run.

On the other hand, after mutliple runs back to back, my CB R20 result, using an off the shelf 360 rad AIO, on my 5950X is 12,078 and my max temp is 81.5 degrees Celsius (which would be 71.5 degrees Celsius if I were conducting my benchmark runs in Buildzoid's room - so that would be about a 30 degree Celsius delta).

After over three years the scrub conducting the 7950X test still hasn't learned jack about configuring 3rd/4th and now 5th Gen Ryzen.

It's not like someone hasn't created a guide on how to configure any 3rd/4th Gen Ryzen on any motherboard optimally in about five minutes flat (and that includes the BIOS).

Oh wait, that's right, I have.

There again I put in the eight months of work to find out how to do it.