Quote from: L on April 01, 2025, 19:52:15

Quote from: A on April 01, 2025, 18:22:45I don't mind as long as the ram isn't soldered

I wish ram was made more easier to upgrade on laptops like the underlying mechanism. So it were more like adding an SD card in a slot.

Have no issues upgrading ram on big desktop towers but on laptops it feels more like undergoing heart surgery. ._.

That's because manufacturers go out of their way to make things difficult. I have an old HP elitebook, it may be 10 years old but it is the best laptop I have ever owned (which says a lot cause consumer HP laptops were the worst I've owned). The laptop is so good I'm still using it today, typing on it right now.

It is ridiculously easy to service, to upgrade ram all I have to do is slide the slider, then remove the cover and the ram is right there(ssd and removable battery is there too), no screwdriver needed. Even if I wanted to swap the keyboard, rotate 2 screws and just take the keyboard out (the screws remain inside on a spring so no losing screws)

Unfortunately, since Elitebooks have turned into junk that is much harder to service, even HPs so called new initiative for a repairable laptop is 5x harder to service than their 10 year old elitebooks

This is intentional, they want things harder for people to service forcing you to buy new overpriced stuff. Though these days, I can't even find myself wanting any new laptop due to the nonsense they do with terrible keyboards, poor key travel, horrible touchpads and overpriced premium due to limits to how much ram they solder unless you buy a more expensive model.

Unless governments make it a crime to make stuff so poor to repair, things are only unfortunately only going to get worse

Quote from: A on April 01, 2025, 18:22:45I don't mind as long as the ram isn't soldered

I wish ram was made more easier to upgrade on laptops like the underlying mechanism. So it were more like adding an SD card in a slot.

Have no issues upgrading ram on big desktop towers but on laptops it feels more like undergoing heart surgery. ._.

Budget models, they're resorting to this to get the price down as much as possible even if it bottlenecks the computer right from the start.

Just like Apple's weird little game of listing a base price with 8 GB of RAM, making the $150-200 upgrade to 16 GB practically mandatory (especially since RAM cannot be upgraded later).

I don't mind as long as the ram isn't soldered, I'd even take 2gb. Ram is one of the things vendors overprice on and any sane person knows its 5x cheaper to buy your own.

This is why I waited almost one year before the new AMD cpus appeared in laptops (mostly 16gb configs), then finally a few days ago I bought one from PCSpecialist which lets you choose the amount of memory you need.