Quote from: indy on March 10, 2025, 23:52:54When you opened the old Opera (now Vivaldi) you saw "Speed ��dial" windows, which other browsers did not have, and the old Opera (now Vivaldi) had it already in 2006 or even earlier. Tabs in the old Opera (now Vivaldi) were different from IE or Chrome, in the old Opera (now Vivaldi) it was much more convenient, and you could open 100 of them and the browser would not crash.Quote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 23:25:25All current browsers are based on the old Opera design, as is Chrome.
What? That statement has zero qualifiers. Based on what aspect of design? Interface? Rendering? Opera's original rendering was Presto, then Webkit, then Blink/ Chromium. All very different.
You might mean Mosaic, which pretty much all modern and former browsers share a base with. Opera definitely did not originate Mosaic, as Opera itself came 4 years after Mosaic had been around.
Quote from: A on March 11, 2025, 17:51:02Quote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 23:25:25All current browsers are not based on old Opera design, that is nonsense. Today most browsers with exception of firefox come from KDE Konqueror which made KHTML engine, which then got forked into webkit than that got forked into Blink
For those of us that were actually ALIVE and IN the industry when 'web browsers' were invented and first marketed, many if not most of modern browsers FEATURES were copied or at least were inspired from Opera.
As an example as I recall, Opera was the FIRST to implement browser "TABS" rather than having separate windows for each web page. (along with many other features)
However due to management missteps as well as market forces Opera was never a major player.
Quote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 23:25:25Google bought it first, but when they completely ruined the great browser, they sold it to the Chinese
Vivaldi is the work of the original creators of Opera. All current browsers are based on the old Opera design, as is Chrome.
Quote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 23:25:25All current browsers are based on the old Opera design, as is Chrome.
Quote from: A on March 10, 2025, 15:36:30Google bought it first, but when they completely ruined the great browser, they sold it to the ChineseQuote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 15:27:21Vivaldi would be at the top, it's the original Opera which Google apparently bought and ruined. The original Opera creators brought it back to how it was from day one under the name Vivaldi
Opera was bought by a chinese company, not google...
Quote from: Varta on March 10, 2025, 15:27:21Vivaldi would be at the top, it's the original Opera which Google apparently bought and ruined. The original Opera creators brought it back to how it was from day one under the name Vivaldi