Quote from: toto1234 on January 30, 2025, 20:12:43crapdragon

Oh, I like that name, very nice (and appropriate for what it is)! 😁

Quote from: Worgarthe on January 30, 2025, 17:57:53if they don't go crazy with their pricing

Of course they will, it's "for business", which means they can and will overcharge.

Peons like us can buy the crapdragon version instead

Is this silent without fan?

Is the display as semi-matte as the video wants us to believe?

Is the LCD / IPS panel without PWM flickering?

We await independent reviews of the battery life. However, the following pretends to be realistic:

www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-pro-for-business-copilot-pc-intel/8qfmn9xp1rl9?icid=mscom_marcom_H1a_SurfaceProForBusinessCopilotPCIntel#tab-tech-specs

"Up to 10 hours of active web usage [...] Based on a web browsing test. Testing conducted by Microsoft in January 2025 using preproduction software and preproduction Surface Pro for Business Intel Core Ultra 5 256GB, 16GB RAM (LCD) devices and Intel Core Ultra 7 256GB, 16GB RAM (OLED) devices. Testing consisted of full battery discharge while accessing eight popular websites over multiple open tabs through the browser. All settings were default except screen brightness set to 150 nits with Auto-Brightness disabled.  Wi-Fi was connected to a network"

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Here is the harsh truth (net prices in USD):

support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-much-does-out-of-warranty-service-cost-for-your-surface-device-or-accessory-germany-37f6faa6-ad5c-4410-876e-80e0621e6b1c

"Surface Pro 11th Edition
   

Liquid damage repair
Screen or physical damage repair
Battery replacement service
General repair (excludes liquid, screen & physical damage)
   

811.64
701.91
372.95
680.03



Surface Pro 10 for Business
   

Liquid damage repair
Screen or physical damage repair
Battery replacement service
General repair (excludes liquid, screen & physical damage)
   

811.64
701.92
372.95
680.03"


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www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/configure/surface-pro-for-business-copilot-pc-intel/8qfmn9xp1rl9

Net prices in USD:

$1500  Core Ultra 5 LCD  16/256 GB
$1800  Core Ultra 7 OLED 16/256 GB
+$100  512 GB (optional alternative colour Black)
+$300  32 GB
+$500  32/512 GB
+$300  1 TB (only Core Ultra 7 OLED)
+$700  32 GB / 1 TB (only Core Ultra 7 OLED)

It is the too known astronomic rip-off.

Hopefully going from 256 GB to 512 GB won't be a gazillion dollars like on previous generations.

Very nice to see the Surf updated with a real CPU (and iGPU). This will sell nicely if they don't go crazy with their pricing (I mean proper prices after a month or two, not these post-launch inflated ones).